Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

No, I don't believe all anonymous tales posted, and that is your prerogative, but if the best you can contribute is to call people liars and spout nonsense about eating grass, then as mentioned, you have some neck to talk about posting in good faith. Unless you are going to try and convince us you have never heard the turn of phrase I used?

There are ZERO inconsistencies in what I posted, and if you think you pointed out any to me, then I am guessing that they were in the shitpost that I didn't read past the first sentence. If you think there were any inconsistencies, then I suggest you go back and read over the posts correctly, because I am willing to bet you didn't and are probably trying to twist the story to suit you. I said initially, I have no interest in a back and forth with anyone that doesn't believe it, as I was aware when posting there would be some, as they wouldn't want to believe it. I never got irate, the words comical idiot came to mind, but didn't think about it after that.

A tip for you. If you have any intentions of trying to discuss something with people, it's best not to try and pretend you have the mind of a 5 year old child first. As I can't see how you plan to make it benefit you other than for the other person to dismiss your entire post, so you can say at a later time that they didn't answer your nonsense.

I refused to have a back and forth when I was hungover, if you have any genuine questions, I will be happy to answer them. I didn't 'get pulled' on any story, the idea that you pulled it up is hilarious, I am guessing you think you actually came up with something in the rest of that shitpost, maybe you should have started with it, as I didn't read past it, and won't be going back to look for it.

For all I know, that could be some deliberately obtuse tactic you use to try and claim others are the ones with the issue. You had issue with the story, I get that. You can't believe that your beloved government are morons and are doing a terrible job, along with whoever is supposed to be doing whatever vetting there is supposed to be (if any), so you try and call out the post by saying stupid things in the hope it will get a reaction, So you can then try and use to your advantage later on, or claim you got a reaction. It didn't work. Sorry about that.

So you are leading with the grass shite again?

I have no idea. For all I know, he may have been working up until then and lost his job, he may be wealthy and had been living off an inheritance. I can't see how I would possibly know the answer to that.

You should ask him that yourself. But maybe he didn't think he could apply for Switzerland from within it, as they are not a member of the EU. He didn't go to live in a centre, he came to Ireland to live in the free accommodation, presumably he found himself on a waiting list when he arrived, like so many others, and ended up in a centre. I doubt Switzerland are also giving full benefits with everything else paid for, for an unlimited time. I doubt anyone is, except us.

Oh Christ, this is your 'genius moment'? As far as I know, they knew that as they were claiming to be a couple, to get a house sooner, they would end up in the same room together. The room has en suite and is decent size. I have no idea if they have sex the odd time, or if she charges for it. Or if they have found a way to live in the room together. There are two kids in the house, so I know they won't be getting a room each.. They don't need to take their acting to any level, as the whole point of my original post is that they have come clean, presumably because they no longer want to, or feel the need to keep up the charade now that they have a house. And as mentioned, they have perfect English.

Again, that is not really anything you are pulling up on the story.

I never knew about the 14k tax free. It is possible that he doesn't either. Is it €14k per year, or just €14k one time? There could be a million reasons he is not going that route. As I don't know the rules on it, I couldn't answer.

Oh right, that is your opinion on the glaring inconsistencies, not actual fact based answers.

Sure when you meet your mates brother again, until then we will have file it under 'pub talk' - just too many nonsensical variables, I assume you'd agree?

WTF are you talking about.

First, I had stated in the very first post, that I had written everything I knew or remembered. I can't see any glaring inconsistencies. It is baffling that you would think I would have the answers to any of those questions, but none of them would be 'inconsistent'. You seem to think so, maybe you could explain why.

Nothing you asked above would lead an inconsistency imo. In any case, I am 100% satisfied that it is all true and can easily be confirmed. I doubt there is anywhere to report such a thing, or is that asking too much from this lot.

Why bother replying, just ignore.

One of the points I was trying to make about the story also, but it got lost in the nonsense, was similar to that. It isn't that much of a stretch to believe it. A guy with a Ukrainian passports seeks refuge in Ireland, passes whatever crap vetting may or may not be in place (it seems none according to the article linked earlier). It is also not really a massive story, it is just something I found out the other night and think should be reported. It's a bit odd that somebody could be that bothered to declare it a lie and claim it has so many inconsistencies (which I still can't see) to be honest.

It is a very small example of one or two people getting away with seeking refuge when they shouldn't. As mentioned, you would need to be very very naive to think that it is a one off. Trying to disprove it is pointless.

Which Party?

Wasn't in a pub. Switzerland benefits are more generous than ours for Ukrainian refugees? Where did you hear that? You most definitely didn't read it. Where or how did he 'chuck it all in'? What was he getting in Switzerland now that you seem to know more than I do already 🙄. When did he choose to go live in a centre? And was he really doing that while concocting a rouse with a stranger? You seem to be implying he chose the house.

Twisty mctwist with the stories. I am genuinely wondering if you are so obtuse, that all of the above is genuinely how you picked it up, or if you are so hell bent on trying to see it your own way that your mind deformed the story for you, and decided not bother with facts.

Your take on it as posted above, is so twisted from the actual story that I heard and posted that your agenda on here is blatant.

Now, I can go back to posting in good faith unlike yourself (blatantly), as there is only so much of your petulant idiotic, twisted facts, and your childish bullcrap when you can't think of anything else to say that one can take. You have literally tried it all in the last couple of hours, so I will bid you good day. 👍️

No irateness here nor toys pram etc. As I expect that is your next pathetic move. You just have nothing at all to bring to the discussion, nor are you even trying. It is beyond pathetic actually.

Since March of this year, more than 60,000 citizens of Ukraine have received temporary protection status S in Switzerland. The status enables Ukrainian refugees to find a job and receive social assistance in the country.

The largest part of the sum is intended for medical services and covers other canton expenses for a refugee’s maintenance. In addition, the amount of allowance money was fixed at 1500 Swiss francs per month.

About 380 euro a week.

Where or how did he 'chuck it all in'? What was he getting in Switzerland now that you seem to know more than I do already

He obviously had a home there and means.

Unless he was in fact living in a field?

Also I probably wouldn't be best placed to answer these questions, wouldn't you agree?

Why aren't Irish people being forced to house refugees?

Yeah, so you didn't actually read what status s is. That doesn't surprise me. Again, picking bits out to suit your narrative.

Also, the 1500 francs you highlighted, you didn't actually read how long that was for either.. 😱 I am gasping in shock at that..

As for

Not only would I agree, it would be one of my points, and going by how you skim over stuff to make a point, I would reckon it would apply to everything you discuss.

Yet you seemed to think you were knowledgeable enough about it in your last nonsense post.