A global recession is on the horizon - please read OP for mod warning

And how exactly do you envisage “Europe” forcing Ukraines hand for “territory concessions in current conflict” ?

Go on please spell it out how exactly you think that would work

You see Germany/France dropping sanctions and risking sanctions themselves from half of the EU states for whom Russia is an existential threat? In the process destroying EU itself…

I mean how exactly do the geniuses on this thread think the “bending over for Putin” actually would work out and NOT destroy EU itself in process

And why wouldn’t likes of Germany instead opt in to develop own gas resources (2030bcm there accessible with fracking, that’s 20-30 years of gas in Germany alone) and switch renewables faster

Half of European countries very existence is threatened (again) by Russia and populations and politicians are anti Russia and pro sanctions

If the EU drops sanctions you think these countries will just say “this is fine” and not break up the EU into two and/or impose secondary sanctions with US and UK on side

What so you think breakup of EU and sanctions by USA would do to let’s say German industry

Once again, spell out how exactly you envisage the “dropping of pants, and bending over for Putin” to work out in Europe, go on

Why would European countries chose Putin and collapse of the EU over extracting own resources?

EU (and other European countries) has plenty of alternatives already outlined multiple times

so are you predicting the death of EU within six months?

Do you want to explain how exactly you envisage that Russian gas would start flowing again?

Or you rather driveby shoot one liners and failing to engage in civilised debate (how very Russian of you)

Please explain why there is not an energy crisis in US but there is one in Europe?

Hint: European countries chose to not extract the gas available in their own countries and rely on Russian gas instead of becoming energy independent.

And there lies the solution to this “crisis” that does not involve bending over to Putin and in process collapsing EU where many members states are more worried about their very existence.

short term: financial support similar to Covid ones on back of low interest rates as money is trying to find a home away from shithole economies. Plus simply getting gas elsewhere and filling storage as is being done

medium term: start extracting gas in Europe, 70 years in Spain, 30 in Germany, 15 in Ireland and so on

long term: replace gas with renewables, storage and nuclear

none of this involves:

1. destruction of EU
2. giving in to Russian criminal blackmail
3. throwing half of Europe under the Russian boot (again)

and results in:

1. energy independence
2. jobs and prosperity
3. transition to low carbon
4. destruction of Russia

I don't think many here support Putin, outside of a few radical Socialist types like Clare Daly etc, few offer succour.

Putin has doused both Europe and Russia's economy in petrol and is lighting matches.

He has had a lot of help in that from people like Merkel, and unpaid unhelp from those who went along with Green Energy absolutism rather than keeping alternatives backing up.

Add in the highly successful war on agriculture in Europe.

The absolute chaos and weight crushing businesses in Europe cannot be overestimated.

This crisis is not even in the same room as euro or covid crises which EU survived quite fine and came out stronger

I outlined in excruciating detail how this will be solved

But you rather throw your hands in air, give up and polish your Z swastika in preparation for liberation by Dear Leader’s murdering and raping troops who you cheer for in this and parallel threads.

BTW notice how I am capable of writing more than a sentence, if English is not your first language that is understandable

When will that be? You are also going for six months??

Go ahead and point out were i am attracted to Russian fascism?

Point out one poster who has said Putin is a genius? We'll wait.

Do I need to point at the timeline of the posts in last few pages where it was you who chose to not engage in debate and posted a one liner insult?