Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

As bad as things were tonight in the first half, the Liverpool sides that went onto win the CL & PL had stinker of performances away at Napoli too.

Need Konate back quickly now as Matip and him should be the starting two in central defence.

Thiago and Matip added so much more to that team when they were on the pitch.

If there’s any positives from tonight, it’s getting minutes for Matip, Thiago, Jota and Arthur, and Diaz working his arse off.

We desperately need options. Some of our players have been stinking the place out for a while, maybe tiredness, or just not bothered. Either way a spell on the sidelines for some of them might be what’s needed.

If we can't get the intensity back in our game, I don't see how we have a successful season in any way.

And the thing is, for many, because of the World Cup, this will be the most draining season of their careers ... right after a 63 game marathon where the season started a couple of weeks earlier than normal.

Trent's attitude is awful but to be honest but Virgils is not much better...he's just strolling around the place disinterested half the time. Not sure if the Mo contract has been at him or what but he looks so far off it. The high line does not work without him dictating it and I don't think we have properly caught anyone offside this season...Robbo is trying to be passing and general end product have been way off!

He was poor towards the end of last season too. I've lost faith in him a little. But it is good to have him back as an option.

I said this a couple weeks back as well. Mentally shattered?

A lot of then looked like they were in slow motion when turning too get back,it's like they aren't bothered or haven't got the energy I don't know

Don't know if that's the case, he has as much a risk of getting injuried the way he's playing currently as he's late and awkward going into so many tackles... regardlessly of minding himself he should be still able to pick out a simple pass and that's a struggle for him to currently!

Woeful performance. Milner needs dropping. Thiago straight in for Wolves. Matip as well.

We will turn it around but it needs to be asap.

It's difficult to want to bother in a stadium that was like a steam room, must have been 28c in stadium, you're 2-0 down, and you know it doesn't matter one bit this game. It explains a lot of what we saw tonight.

Trent getting a lot of blame for the goals.

A goal down, he's pushing on, Gomez makes (another) Fvck up, Trent of 60 meters away and could never recover in a million years, but he's still to blame according to BT.

He's not playing well, is being caught out in a nonfunctioning team, but it's not all on him.

While team hasn't got going this season, have been very flat and passive since the first game, well the second game (looked very sharp in Charity Shield).

Whole squad is very flat, something off on preperations it looks to me, start to games is so poor and we're always chasing the result.

That was a hard watch. Obviously Gomez and Trent will cop some stick for the third goal, as well as Gomez being caught on the ball repeatedly, but Virgil was all over the bloody place. Lost count of the number of times he dragged the defence out of place or marked thin air. 4th goal is a good example of this. He's been dragged over to the left and is literally marking nothing.

Then again, if we want to talk about individuals, only Ali, Elliot & Diaz have been anywhere near where they should be this season, so idk maybe we should drop the whole team? You could maybe add Thiago to players who've played ok, but he's played 1 & 1/3 games, so the sample set is not particularly large.

Personally I think this is mentality issue, cos we know for a fact that these lads can play. Injuries haven't helped, but it's not like 3 years ago where we ended up with Hendo at CB. Collectively they're making poor errors - bad decisions when defending, un co-ordinated presses, not getting to 2nd balls (particularly from corners - I'd say we got countered successfully direct from corners more in 3 games against Newcastle, Everton and Napoli than we have in 3 years.) which are so prevalent throughout the team that I can't accept it's individuals players or tactics. It's a collective mentality issue.

Glad Jurgen is talking about the set up..

Hopefully he can drop the high line..even till we get more legs into midfield.

Might even help the forwards have more space behind the opposition if we play deeper...

We better get use to this folks,the Newcastle result only covers the cracks,those cracks have got wider by the game.LFC in serious trouble and the lack of purchases is killing us

Stats in the games don't reflect the results though. We must have had 200 shots in last 6 games, and dominated possession in them all.

Against Bournemouth they all went in, tonight we could have had 5

Matip, Thaigo & Nunez in for Saturday

Id love to say Arthur to but he doesn't look match sharp yet but I think he will help us get control when, he's fit

Would Klopp ever go 3 at the back

We were a shambles at the back. Maybe we could've had 5 (although imo that's a stretch), but equally they could've had more than 4.

Having more possession, shots etc. is a relevant discussion if we had actually played well and had run into a Spiderman Goalie or something. Because then you can reasonably assume that if you continue to do the same things, you'll get results.

But there's no case for that today. We do the same things at the weekend as we did tonight and we'll ship another 4.

Impressive levels of delusion there friend, admirable.

Lucky I have 3 to put to bed by looks of things, missed the second half. Were they any better than the first half at least?

Klopp deserves some blame tonigjt

He didn't move for a midfielder untill the Naby injury which was shockingly too late, Stevie Wonder could see we would have issues

Then tonight he knows Gomez struggles with a high line & plays a midfield with no legs in front of him, So no closing down & making Gomez deal. with through ball after through ball

The whole midfield situation is rotten,

Milner was awful, Fabhino looked nailed to the ground at times & Elliott was the last to get back of the 3 multiple times.

The right hand side of the pitch was so bad defensively

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