FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3 - Threadbanned User List in OP

Given the phone calls that Varadkar (current leader of FG) made to help Trump with planning issues and about which Varadkar later boasted, you might want to reconsider your attempts to use the phrase "Trumpism" as Varadkar and by extension FG are linked to Trump in a rather embarrassing manner.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43425048

Regards...jmcc

Fair play to Catherine Murphy (SD) for highlighting the wrongdoing in the first place. She was under pressure to shut up at the time too. FFG have done a great job of reminding the electorate of their true colours over the past few weeks.

Just watching the RTE 9 o'clock news. RTE covering it, surprisingly. Martin doing his usual "lessons learned" act.

Regards...jmcc

The report is now being sent to Revenue and other bodies...9 years after the sale.....expect zero accountability.

This is Ireland. Nothing happened with the Moriarty report. Nothing ever happened with cross-media ownership. It is hard not to consider FF, FG and Labour as being a part of the problem.

Regards...jmcc

FG/Labour government. And RTE even had a Labour TD (Nash) waffling about the cost of the report.

Regards...jmcc

This is how it all works.

FF website 2015

Essential that IBRC commission report is published before general election – McGrath (fiannafail.ie)

Fianna Fáil Finance spokesperson Michael McGrath has said it is essential that the Commission of Investigation into IBRC completes its report in line with the deadline it has been set of December 31st this year.

Deputy McGrath commented: “The government have completely botched the process of investigating legitimate concerns regarding the loss incurred by the State on the Siteserv sale and other transactions at IBRC that resulted in large losses for taxpayers. It initially set up a flawed investigation process using KPMG, despite that firm having acted as advisers on the Siteserv deal. Having appointed a High Court judge in a supervisory role to attempt to deal with the obvious conflict of interest, it was forced into another u-turn establishing a full Commission of Investigation.

“Legal issues are cited as a standard reason for delays in investigations of this nature. In my view, this cannot be used as an excuse for not producing a timely report.

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It still took 7 more years. New Politics.

They've known about the delays for years and did nothing for future wrongdoing investigations. Status Quo. How can people still vote for these parties?

Let me guess, they had to talk to their masters first?

This is why we cannot have quick and cheaper investigations into this stuff. Our constitution.

The government of the day tried to change it but the people rejected it. If you have a constitutional solution to the issue, lay it out instead of being a misery junkie.

I am sitting here looking at all the outrage about Siteserv and I share much of it. Some private individuals acted in a very dishonest way and cheated the taxpayer out of €8m and maybe a bit more in tax.

But then I am wondering, what is it doing on the government thread as the Commission hasn't pointed any fingers at the government? Is this now the vent your spleen about anything you don't like thread?

What is really outrageous is that it has been reported that this Commission could cost €70m. Where are those who opposed the government's efforts to change the Constitution to make these enquiries cheaper?

I am talking about Sitesirv, not Irish Water.

And who cares about Irish Water anyway these days?

Wonder how Siteserv will impact FG (and Labour) in the next few opinion polls? It certainly has reminded the electorate of FG's history and coupled with the Troy Story mess for FF, it may well have the electorate thinking about voting for other parties and candidates. Even the FFG apologists on Social Media seem rather quiet given that the report stated that the decision to grant O'Brien exclusivity was “tainted by impropriety” and the deal was "commercially unsound". It damages FG's credibility and reminds people that it was an FG-led government that gave the second mobile phone licence to Denis O'Brien. That was covered in the Moriarty tribunal and the then leader of FG, Enda Kenny, claimed that its report would not rest on a shelf gathering dust. And now Siteserv has put FG back in the spotlight. FFG's Martin was obviously trying to downplay things with his usual "lessons learned" effort. Perhaps if the Dail hadn't so many school teacher/TDs, it would fix things instead of merely learning expensive lessons for which the taxpayer always pays.

Regards...jmcc

Ah yes, another utterly piss poor attempt at reform by the shoddy 2011 FG government. You know the one - the New Politics lie one. It's up there with Enda's Seanad reform....we all know how that went.

Some lines from your link on the government's deliberate failure.

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Harry McGee in The Irish Times, and Seán Fleming, the Fianna Fáil spokesperson on Public Expenditure and Reform, mentioned the rushed nature of the legislative process.

Holding two referendums and the Presidential election simultaneously reduced media time for debate; some underinformed voters adopted a policy of "if you don't know vote no".

The precise wording of the amendment was considered vague by many; Harry McGee mentioned that the Referendum Commission's information booklet drew attention to this. Brendan Howlin, the sponsoring minister, suggested in The Sunday Times that the Referendum Commission's briefing had caused confusion. The Commission publicly objected to what it saw as a criticism of its impartiality and of its chairman personally. Howlin apologised and described his original comments as "cack-handed". Law lecturer Donncha O'Connell characterised the Referendum Commission's advertising campaign as "facile and patronising". In April 2012, The Irish Times reported that an unpublished briefing produced by the Commission for minister Phil Hogan described as "grossly inadequate" the five weeks it had had to fulfil its functions.

The electorate retained a distrust of politicians previously evident in the general election in February 2011; journalists suggested voters did not trust politicians to wield quasi-judicial power.

Seán Fleming criticised the government's perceived arrogance during the campaign. Journalists mentioned in particular Alan Shatter's dismissive response to the Attorney Generals' voicing of opposition.