Young people and emigration: The elephant in the room

Life and wellbeing here IS being downgraded, everything from social to healthcare to housing, every quality of life we had.

more difficult to attain services, harder to qualify and a long wait for everything from financial supports to healthcare..

it’s going to continue floating away in that direction.

young people see and are attempting to attain work and opportunities, make a base for a fair life elsewhere.

australia has followed many other developed nations such as little ould ireland, and has decided causing a hyper inflated property market by deregulating its financial sector, will be a roaring success, it probably wont end well! this can be clearly seen in the data provided, i.e. under such conditions, private debt rockets as its primarily used in the inflation of these property prices, as was the case in our pre 08 boom! again, this to will more than likely end badly!

‘ Same everywhere’ is just not acceptable or shouldn’t be.

all of us and more before us having being contributors to and continually responsible for the setting up, delivery of and improvements of services and quality of life, get told now that hundreds of thousands will be coming over here piggybacking on those resources often ahead of the rest of us…

this is why kids now are emigrating.

when if they need a dig out with something, they have to wait an in ordinate duration of time and often have to pay full whack while others simply arriving get it free gratis…

if I was 18 again,I’d be gone

There’s a lot of anecdotal chitchat in this thread suggesting that young people are emigrating in droves. Is any of this backed up by hard data? A few people stating that their mate moved to Australia or Germany is indicative of well, nothing.

I don’t have time to look through CSO data right now, but last year saw a record high of net inward migration to Ireland, including Irish people returning home. The birth rate also jumped by 16% YoY. Ireland is doing just fine demographically.

I’m a little bemused by this thread to be honest..

Average unit price in Australia is about €625,000, Ireland is €320,000.

Anyone emigrating for cheaper housing needs to reassess that plan.

Obviously, the CSO doesn't break down births by socio-economic class. In terms of nationality, it's ~80% Irish people, 10% EU, and 10% rest-of-world.

You’d better say “ex-pat”, ACD. You wouldn’t want them all picturing you as some grubby faced factotum out to screw over the “system” to the detriment of the native citizens.

Price relative to income is the metric that matters most for determining housing affordability. Perth is cheaper than Dublin when taking this into account.

'A person working in Perth typically earns around 102,000 AUD per year.'

In any objective analysis of quality of life, Ireland always ranks highly.

In the rankings of angry lads on the internet, not so much.

You couldn't make a go of it here. Grand. One of the beauties of living here is how easy it is to go elsewhere. Just because you were miserable doesn't make it a miserable place.

..its beyond weird tbh!

All I am saying is the choices to move to where your quality of life will be better outside of Ireland is limited in more ways than people think. On top of that considering moving changes dramatically when reality of the situation are looked at.

as for a better quality of life in Liverpool or Manchester I would say no. Personally I dislike the cities immensely and consider the city centres rough. You like London and I really don’t and lived there myself for a while but I will say not as a person with a good job. Dublin is the nicer city to them all but I am not paying massive rent barely getting by like I was in London.

Priorities change as you get older so where the nearest nice restaurant is compared to the nightclub is more important later on.

I get why younger people go on about stuff as they can only see their future but they lack knowledge of what the past was. They get a very distorted view of better and worse times. They also lived through some pretty good times the older generations didn’t. The problem with many who left are also stuck in the moment they left which may have been very personal circumstances.

My experience of London is as valid as yours is as is somebody else’s view of living in Dublin or Ireland.

I am very familiar with Manchester, the hipster or nice bits, for example, Chorlton or Didsbury are expensive there are nice bits in the center such as spinningfields and Canal st but a lot of the center and surrounds are quite rough, it also has a very transient population, there are a lot of nice bars and restaurants, its a mixed bag the same as Dublin property is cheaper but not hughley.

Might as well go with the current narrative that the western world is fucked for young people and it's in decline anyway, what about south America to emigrate to parts seem very nice.

Although I do wonder what the thousands of Brazilians are doing in Dublin as it's such a kip.

I doubt you will believe any data shown.

No idea how you ended up with attempted muggings so often. There is racism in Ireland it isn’t like the UK where it is much more prevelant. So while you are paying attention to Boards how much attention are you paying to Liverpool, Manchester or London which has a lot of violence and murder. Are the police in London still carry automatic weapons, last time I was there they were.

London still has huge areas of council housing with people in poverty and of set ethnic make up. Gangs stabbing each other is still a thing. You might not live near there but it is there. Oddly the only time somebody tried to mug me was in London but never in Dublin.

Young people whingeing.

The elephant in the room.