PV Feed In Tariff

Spot on mate. If the unit rate is €0.10 and you have a 10Kwhr battery, then (assuming 0% losses) it will cost you €1 to fill up. If after 10 years that capacity has dropped say 15% so it only stores 8.5Kwhr, then it will cost you €0.85 to fill it.

Course similar to the EV, you will get less "mileage" from it, but that's ok. it still works, just not as well as the day you bought it.

Indeed. Some of the regulars in here got it even cheaper, but I got 20kWh usable CALB cells in June for €2300

So if you'd get 2000 cycles * 20kWh = 40000kWh out of them, so each costs 6c per kWh, that's the figure @WattsUp came up with

Now if you got a 2.4kWh Pylontech (2.2kWh usable) for €1200, then this figure is a shocking 27c/kWh 🤐, in other words it will never pay for itself unless electricity will go up even a lot more (and that's disregarding FIT)

Aye AE have them down as 6000 cycles. Not sure if that's realistic though, it means 16 years at a full cycle a day and then still have 80% capacity? 😁

The credit will go to cover the bill no matter how its made up. Its still early days of the FIT so its still a unknown.

You might get enough credit to buy something in the utility providers eshop. Or a free gas boiler service.

But early days. Sit back a see how it shakes out.

The avg standing charges are around €50 a month

my standing charge with Energia is €20 a month - who is charging 50?

D/N and smart meter plans are generally higher too. Especially the smart plans with very low rates for a couple of hours at night

Standing charges plus rural premium plus PSO(reducing) would not be too far short of 600 for some plans. I'd probably round up too

Had seen that Journal article about the FiT a few days ago and wanted to ask what people here thinking it might be worth per annum given the amount of sunshine over the last year as a reference point. If I did go ahead with an installation its for a 3 bed semi so Im limited to one south facing roof which I think has about a 35-40 degree pitch. iirc you are limited on how many panels you can put up by the size of the overall roof. Anyone here also with a 3 bed semi know how many m2 of panels you can put up and have real world experience of how many units it is generating annually.

Also I will have a read of the solar PV quotes thread but am I right to say that over the last few years as the media have been practically doing all the solar industries advertising for them for free that prices have risen substantially? I know thats been the case with EWI which was available for 90 per sqm in 2018 but recently have heard some companies quoting 180-200 per sqm which is mad money and people are paying it. I know insulating boards have risen in the price but the cynic in me feels many companies are taking full advantage of both the grants regime and the constant media exposure for energy savings.

For me renewables are all about the payback period and if the prices are sky high then that payback period gets longer and longer which kind of puts me off. If only there was a way to buy my own panels and contract a roofer and sparks but still get the grant Id do that but it seems you have to go to these SEAI solar companies, they say theyre up the walls with long waiting lists which says they are increasing prices becasue demand is through the roof, excuse the pun.

Its a funny one becasue normally with new technologies early adopters pay the most money and then it gets cheaper over time. But from what I can see with solar early adopters probably have the cheapest installs and much shorter payback periods than someone getting it now as a result.

Have kept an eye on standing charges over the last couple of years as they are a bugbear of mine the way they have more than doubled in price with no explanation from the regulator. I think the energy companies are basically using them as a way of disguising what would be even higher per unit electricity costs if the increases only went on to the unit price.

My own meter is day night urban and 2 years back my SC was the cheapest in the market at 127 per annum with Glow Power, at that time the most expensive was Electric Ireland at 270 per year. Now my SC is still one of the cheapest in the market but is 296pa (Energia) and the most expensive is still EI and they were 450pa when I was switching recently. 450 quid a year is some wedge before you even flick on a light switch.

On the surface it would seem like that, but dont' forget that solar penetration in Ireland is some 25,000-30,000 out of ~2.4million homes. So only 1% of the market. I wish it was more of course (as do we all) but solar wouldn't move the dial that much with respect to standing charges.

Personally, I think a tenner a month is probably a fair shout as a SC.

Does the meter go backwards? If so jump on here to see the options (hint, wait!): Questions on Solar PV Self Install: Meter running backwards - Page 2 — boards.ie - Now Ye're Talkin'

I was waiting to see but alas, it doesn't go backwards it just stays still. Not sure if that's better than getting FiT payments or not.

Nope, no need to notify your utility company

You do only get FIT if after your install you, or your installer, sent in the mandatory NC6 form to ESB networks though. Double check that that was done.

Wow, I thought Panda had invested in biogas production so they would have been set with high gas prices

An interesting observation about the FIT, the deemed export does not care about the weather or the hours of sunlight. It's worth a lot more in winter than summer when you have very little chance of exporting.

Deemed kWh = MEC * 24 * 0.097 * 0.35 * DAYS

Deemed kWh = MEC * 0.8148 * DAYS

DAYS is the number of days in the calculation

MEC is the inverter output reported on your nc6

I know it's posted already, still can be hard to find.