Russia - threadbanned users in OP

"President Putin".....President Putin?

I know that's technically true, but it's been a while since I've seen that monstrous cancer onto the face of humanity be referred to on here with a title that would make him sound like some kind of statesman.

"President" is the title a democracy ideally gives to a person who has the consensus of the electorate and will do their best for them. It's a title that has taken a lot of abuse in the past few years alas.

In fairness, getting rid of Donegal mightn't be the worst! Always contrary up there when it comes to referendums and have a big bill in the offing for 'restitution'. We could hand both problems to the Brits.

But back on topic, depending on the winter in it and current progress towards Kherson, I think we could see a slow strangulation of supplies to and bombardment of Crimea. It might be easier to make progress in that south & south easterly direction.

Was a similar (edit: no, worse I think) head-melter (or at least head-scratcher) in another of Pa ElGrande's posts, about Putin and Biden's "terms" of office as if comparing apples to apples.

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You are all over the place.

It appears that Ukraine has air superiority in more places these days than Russia, which is a big turn of events.

A lot of your post is off the cuff with no facts to bear.

The thing is, Ukraine has more time in Kherson than Russia. If the winter sets in, how prepared are the poorly trained conscripts willing to freeze when they are low on rations, winter gear and ammo?

Also, if they drive anything like their Russian neighbors, a very common occurrence. Do a YouTube search for Russian driving, and you'll start to wonder why they even bother with traffic lights....or road markings even...

I think retaking Crimea will be quite far down the road if it ever happens. It's taking quite a long time to make inroads on the Russian positions on the right bank of the Dnieper and they have had limited supplies for the past 2 weeks. If and when they do retake Kherson, I just can't see them undertaking a crossing of the Dnipro when they can achieve similar results by attacking overland south of Zaphorizhia. Although, the Russians will have that part of the front well fortified, it would be much easier to break through the lines than to attempt a crossing of the Dnipro further south. There will be long battles to secure Melitopol and Berdyansk, before heading west. Only then might the Ukrainians contemplate a river crossing in order to split the Russian forces and draw some strength from their front lines. And even then, they might never attempt it.

Melitopol is key to much of this I feel. If they can take back there, they'll probably break up that "Land Bridge" to Crimea.

Crimea itself is a daunting objective. Historically it has been a nightmare to invade. The "Little Green Men" of 2014 was one of the very few examples of successful invasion there in modern times. The Nazies had to use some of their most destructive munitions over a very long and protracted battle to take the place during WWII.

This all of course depends on the resolve of the Russians. Losing Crimea puts an end to their Black Sea fleet (what's left of it anyway). They'd have to build a new naval base from scratch in Sochi or near Rostoc, but all of that would be withing Javelin-range of a Ukrainian Crimea. They can't afford to lose it, but can they still put up enough of a fight to stop an invasion? That's what I wonder.

There are estimated 25,000 regular Russian troops in Kherson. Most of the army the Ukrainians took out in Kharkiv were conscripts a lot were from Luhansk. Here is an example of Ukrainian air superiority forced to fly under the radar. If they had air control it would make seizing Kherson much easier. You will also know they are changing the battle space using flooding to impede the Ukrainians supplies in the pocket they are building. Kherson is a knock down battle of attrition, the Ukrainians have already sapped a lot of men trying to take it.

Oh look team russia.

So they supposedly have 25000 men in Kherson,they Lost 50,000 men in 7 months. How long does it take to remove a large number of that 25,000 ,oh and talks of russians surrendering enmass is still ongoing ,.

So any thing to back up your claims

I'd love to see the figures of how much land the Russians took since the begining and how much they have lost. They must have lost at least a third at this stage.

I do hope that Russian surrender is for real and happens. For one, of course it's a less bloody way to win this fight that avoids needless death. Another things is that, although the Russian army is choc full of war criminals, I feel that there is also a good few Russian kids in there who are as much victims of Putin and don't want to be there. They'd be safer under Ukrainian custody for the duration.

Finally, and more importantly, if Ukraine can be seen to be humane to their POWs; offering warmth, safety and a chance to call home to let the folks know you are ok...surrender might look like a decent option for those soon to face the Ukrainians. Might make the fight easier.

They haven't done so well the russians that is

So, to continue the analogy from the previous page - if the UK conquered Donegal and Ireland refused to provide water to the new Donegal People's Republic, would Ireland be committing a war crime?

apologies if already posted, but......