Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

You share the road. Good technique involves negotiation. Getting all pissy at every example of bad road use seems pretty sad (and very much fruitless). Not taking responsibility or looking at situations to see what you could have done better.. even sadder imo 🤷🏻‍♀️

But each to their own. I only comment on these things as I treat these examples as communal learning opportunities. Not everyone sees it that way I guess..

I posted in the legislation thread about why you shouldn't expect a driver to yield to you while you're on a cycle track: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119624396/#Comment_119624396

Absolutely missing the point completely.

Try not to think about blame. Actually, try not to even go down the rabbit hole of what should happen and what the rules of the road are etc and try and look at what is likely to happen. Or more importantly, try and read a situation and look at what you can do for your own safety.

I don't cycle or drive in blind spots because I'm worried about the blame game, I don't do it because people are morons and fu*k up all the time.

I especially try not to double down on that stupidity by then riding or driving into situations that are going to further endanger me. That really is nonsensical to me. Honestly, why would you do that??

Yeah I agree actually due to the speed it turned out safe enough. My blind spot argument is more a generalisation and calling it out for awareness/safety angle. I'm surprised at the amount of people that don't think that way tho.. i.e. observation is the sole responsibility of the driver (who of course could do better here).

Sounds like you're missing the point completely yourself. See my last reply where I stated that the cyclist was in control - ready to slow as he anticipated the driver might left hook him. That said - blind spot is a nonsensical argument whether its a motorist or cyclist. Most of the discussion so far is about who's to blame - were you asleep.

Your'e not assigning blame but then do with the cyclist 😁 Ok anyway we'll agree to disagree as you dont sound like backing down from your blind spot in cycle lane "theory"...

You can talk about no blame all you like (for what it's worth I think the cyclist had enough awareness to avoid the collision) but the reality of it is the driver's complete inattention to the situation - being in an urban area crossing a cycling lane where there is a high possibility of cycle traffic - is the one that can get someone else injured or killed. If there had been a cyclist further along side the car and not in a position to see an indicator, they would have wiped them out.

Also only the driver of this car knows where their supposed blind spot is, we can only guess as we're not the ones sitting in it and not looking. The higher degree of responsibility is with the driver in this instance and if they can't handle that then they shouldn't be driving, too much acceptance on the road of this type of driving.

You can see how you like and leaving the patronising tone aside - your blind spot opinion is incorrect as has been pointed out by several people already. Do a quick google on blind spots driving tests etc. It's the drivers responsibility... Not difficult to find out.

Im sorry you read that as patronising, really. I'm just going for absolute clearest language.

I have never at any point said that the responsibility for checking and performing observations is anyone but the drivers responsibility (nor that the driver didn't f**k up here). I have only said that sitting in the sweet spot between mirrors, colloquially known as the blind spot, is going to increase risk. I would be worried for anyone that disagrees with that statement and chooses to ride or drive in that position.

The reason clip was originally posted was to be portrayed as a victim not for an honest discussion on

*the failures of either party

* the best way to deal with similar incidents

*the law as it pertains to overtaking on the left

There are loads of situations where a vulnerable road user will be entirely in the right in terms of right of way/the law but should be really careful about being missed by a non observant driver, poor bike path design etc etc.

Open a thread trying to get such things discussed and watch it die a death. Open one here/facebook/youtube about being a victim of poor driving/an asshole or whatever and watch the traffic and likes flow.

Social media has greatly amplified the social value we put in victimhood hence the above phenomena

Or you know, only learning to drive...

Even worse then that the fully licenced driver/instructor with them didn't check either...