Homeless refugees in Dublin - where did they arrive from ?

screamer · 08-09-2022 8:36pm

Hopefully those arriving and seeing the fact that we’ve nowhere for them will relay that info to their mates back home. I’ve no probl with refugees but there are chancers out there that should just be put back on the planes and sent back, we cannot take in the whole world, and the less that we have to go around, the quicker the sentiment here will turn against migrants. Far right will come to power in Europe within the next 10 years, it’s inevitable.

Donald Trump · 08-09-2022 8:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119590737#Comment_119590737

I, for one, cannot think of a more trustworthy source than an Albanian people trafficker on TikTok.

Will accept his prepaid fees in Bitcoin?

HBC08 · 08-09-2022 8:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119589321#Comment_119589321

The same issues that are happening around Europe with economic refugees is making its way here,the deal here is a lot better than most other European countries and word is spreading.

We are sleep walking as you say into a bigger crisis than any of the current (cost of living,climate change,housing,health) this crisis of course exacerbates the former.

The anger is palpable and just as night follows day there will be a rise of the right situation.

They weren't smart enough to deal with the wave of economic refugees in other European countries (although the Brits pulled a good stroke with the Rwanda thing,althought I thought it was quite shocking at the time but hey,it's working to a degree) You can be absolutely sure the teachers,estates agents and publicans in the Dail won't be smart enough to deal with this.

happyoutscan · 08-09-2022 9:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119587688#Comment_119587688

I'm calling bs on this.

UsBus · 11-09-2022 11:45am

Finally common sense is prevailing in Sweden and if the Sweden Democrats party get in, they will start to deal with the moronic decision to throw open their borders and let all in sundry in.

Parties here would do well to take this information in. Ireland is already in a desperate situation with it being common knowledge to come and live here for a free ride.

There is a huge vote out there for a party to take a stricter direction with our country and stop the inflow of freeloaders. I'm all for the rise of far right parties and a lot more are I suspect. They are just being shouted down by the liberal left woke brigade for so long, who believe multiculturalism works.

Juran · 11-09-2022 12:48pm

True story. About 10 years ago, my aunt (irish) living in London was at the hairdressers and got chatting to lady who wascleaning the floors, sinks, etc. The lady was from an African country, and when my aunt said she was Irish, the lady said she was moving to Donegal shortly. My aunt asked, why Donegal? The lady told my aunt her friend who lived in Donegal, and 'it was much better for refugees than London'.

Now, that was before the recent housing shortages amd Urkraine conflict, but its only an example of how Ireland is viewed by certain illegal migrants.

UsBus · 15-09-2022 6:26pm

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjS89iHqJf6AhXSYMAKHZEdDjQQr_oDKAB6BAgVEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.sky.com%2Fstory%2Famp%2Fpopulist-anti-immigration-leader-claims-victory-in-swedish-elections-12697455&usg=AOvVaw3gDQHOiwOQRYD4mwo3Z_3q

Time to drain the swamp again.

Sweden on the way back to recovery hopefully

Poor Uncle Tom · 15-09-2022 10:21pm

I haven't been around these parts for a few years, is this the norm for a thread here now? Full of bigots and racists, no moral spine with an overactive gob manifested through a hot keyboard?

SouthWesterly · 15-09-2022 10:46pm

Speaking of Ukrainians. Met one from West Africa recently who claimed to be a refugee from Ukraine and could only speak French.

He's living a nice life in a hotel with free bed and board and 208 a week pocket money.

Juran · 16-09-2022 3:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119624140#Comment_119624140

And our 3td level students (Irish, EU and non EU with study permits) can,t find a room, or if they do, paying €700-€900 and still have to feed themselves plus pay bills on top. Thats if they or their patents can afford it. We read now that so many cant go to college or have to defer places. A lot of students are moving abroad to study, chances are they may setlle there with a job, partner and eventually a family once they graduate. And these students are our future teachers, doctors, nurses, IT experts, engineers, lawyers, accountants, etc, who we depend on to manage society and our economy in the years to come.

I'm all for helping genuine refugees and supporting Ukrainuans until they can hopefully return home, but our young people are our future.

Subzero3 · 16-09-2022 3:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119588855#Comment_119588855

Remember the Roma on the Roundabout. Atleast they didn't have the media behind them.

HBC08 · 16-09-2022 4:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119624001#Comment_119624001

This sort of response is from about 2015.

Times are changing and the realities mean we have to have grown up conversations about immigration.

16-09-2022 11:18pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119624001#Comment_119624001

But... I mean there ARE racists, there are some really nasty far right types, moreso in Eastern Europe and America than here. And there are nasty folks who aren't as extreme as that too. But simply questioning how people get into the country and sleep rough... is that racist? Or just a valid question? I don't really get involved in these discussions, but if a person queries asylum policy when there is an accommodation crisis and inflation at its highest for I believe 40 years, is that so wrong?

Multipass · 16-09-2022 11:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119626906#Comment_119626906

€900 are you joking? €1200, I know several paying this for a grubby room. Racking up the debts, and we don’t even have any student loans in this country.

Multipass · 16-09-2022 11:30pm

https://ecre.org/reception-crises-hundreds-of-asylum-seekers-left-without-accommodation-in-ireland-dutch-authorities-restrict-access-to-ter-apel-ngos-says-belgium-lacks-political-will-for-shelter/

The first part deals with Ireland, asylum seekers just being allowed to enter and disappear. Utter madness, it’s time to shut the door.

17-09-2022 12:40am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119590737#Comment_119590737

With regard to passports between NI and GB.

Could it be that Albanian traffickers are about to influence the brexit border deadlock? 😀

Over-using this Dublin-NI-GB backdoor trick to the point where Brexiters then find out about it and inevitably go full gammon. Calling on Truss to fix it.

Truss then swiftly throwing the Dup back to their second home under the bus.

Perhaps passports to cross the Irish sea via ferry will become a thing.

17-09-2022 1:06am

perhaps its not entirely relevant to the thread, but I do recall many years back a show host asking on radio, with regards to middle east and north african immigrants going to the UK, why don't they go to places en route, rather than France, UK.

Now surely there are genuine issues which might prevent such asylum seekers going to certain locations.

But consider what an asylum seeker from Africa or middle east must bypass, for reasons - genuine or otherwise, before they can find themselves with an accommodation problem in Dublin.

Metropolitan Cairo: Population 21,323,000

Metropolitan Istanbul: Population 15,636,000

Metropolitan Algiers: 2,768,000

(among many other options)

You pretty much have to fly over modern, highly populated cities where many millions of other people manage to get by, in order to find yourself struggling to find emergency accommodation in citywest.

Perhaps (circumstances permitting) if you're coming from that direction and don't want to struggle with finding accommodation in Dublin then you might consider somewhere closer to home.

Theres no shortage of housing in Cairo from the looks of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo-VC5ZwBBQ

mazdamiatamx5 · 17-09-2022 1:44am

It strikes me that the mass immigration policy pursued by the current and last few governments is one of the most racist things I've ever heard of. Nothing could be more racist than an open doors immigration policy - the brightest and the best of developing countries are actively encouraged to leave, rather than stay in their own countries, improving them.

Mass immigration, and open abuse of the system facilitated by the powers that be, continues to impoverish poor countries, enrich the boss class, while leaving the native working class populations in the host countries in a cost of living crisis that grows worse by the day.

Poor Uncle Tom · 17-09-2022 10:06am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119628981#Comment_119628981

It's not wrong, and your entire post is right and perfectly balanced.

I suppose it's the few rant/troll/back biting posts that throw any potentially good thread off the rails and tempers peoples responses. Thankfully you are not one of them.

HBC08 · 17-09-2022 10:51am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119629868#Comment_119629868

Are you for real?

This is your contribution to this thread

"I haven't been around these parts for a few years, is this the norm for a thread here now? Full of bigots and racists, no moral spine with an overactive gob manifested through a hot keyboard?"

Exactly the ranting,name calling,keyboard warrior stuff you're railing against, all this in a hopefully reasonable discussion on immigration, something we need to see more of.

Less of the insults and ranting (from both sides but in this case it was you) is the way forward.We have a massive problem coming down the tracks and shouting racist or bigot at rational people looking for discussions and hopefully solutions is not helpful.

Strumms · 17-09-2022 12:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119628981#Comment_119628981

Unfortunately the narrative to shout down debate and conversation on this subject is to call people racists.

disagreeing or questioning it makes you a racist 🔏

17-09-2022 2:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119630255#Comment_119630255

In fairness to @Poor Uncle Tom he's taken my comment on board, unlike the usual crew.

Poor Uncle Tom · 17-09-2022 3:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119630023#Comment_119630023

Throw your shirt back on!

Fugue, made a very reasoned point without the demeaning attitude. So much so, it was a post worth reading to the end and I agreed with it, so I said so.

HBC08 · 17-09-2022 9:36pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119630859#Comment_119630859

Not sure what the shirt thing is all about.

Anyway,let's try less of the ranting and insults and see how we go👍

Poor Uncle Tom · 17-09-2022 9:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119632171#Comment_119632171

I don't think your approval is needed, but whatever gets you through the day.

Homeless refugees in Dublin - where did they arrive from ?

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