What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

Yes, the leading values of the world, which are in continuous evolution and development.

Why are you comparing them from now with us from decades ago? Say it clearly, don't go in a roundabout way.

Yes, indeed they are saying that their values are better, the problem is that they do it here. Which is the whole point of this thread.

Sure I do, but the differences are: 1 I'm the one who's right :) and 2 I'm not going over there with my values and expect to be accepted.

1,166 people at 1million per person equals 1.166 Billion NOT 862.55million (where is the other 303.45million) and listing of 522million spent still leaves 339.5million missing from smaller figure or a total of 642.95million missing from larger figure

It hasn’t been spent yet, would seem like the obvious answer, certainly more reasonable than the idea of any brown envelopes needing to change hands when it’s all perfectly legitimate.

Ya think?. Both the Journal and I.T. reported OFFICIAL government figures, and somehow lost over 600million in the translation, and you seem to think that I have the problem, adding things up.

Also these figures are over 2 years old and in our time of need, do you not think that Kildare St would be singing from the rafters unless the money was already gone in BROWN ENVELOPES. (bit like the 401Billion from META, yesterday)

Certain posters clearly think every Muslim is calling for people to be beheaded for showing a cartoon. I think it shows a clear lack of life experience. It's like thinking every Christian is homophobic. I have some friends from Saudi and they are the least religious people you'd meet. Just normal people believe it or not. We can already type out Cordells reply, despite him being an immigrant himself.

I was warned before for having a negative view on the islam and its followers so I'll stop at this: it's not he quran or independent reading and interpretation, it's the whole thing that's problematic, the dogma, the laws, the preachers, the concepts, the rejection of western culture including music and clothes.

I think that you will find that it's pretty much a Muslim "thing" Ackwel. How many other religions do you see with death and destruction officially listed in their "Constitution"? IE:- Kill the unbelievers, Cut off the hands and feet, Stone the adulterers, Cast gays from a great height. Maybe you have not reached these passages yet though? I once worked with a Wahhabi Muslim for about 2 years, and I learned quite a bit about their version of Islam ( isis base their interpretation of islam on the Wahhabi version,,,,the most strict there is, and they regard every other Islamic version to be their inferior, and not really Islamic.) According to him, the Quran contains everything a man (or woman) needs. It has the answer to every question, past, present or future that anyone will ever need. Want peace and tranquility? No problem, it's there, just look up the relevant passages. Death and destruction? Yes all of that is covered too, just look up the relevant passages. And it cannot be changed, ever.

Well yeah what did they expect when they let them in? Gratitude?

servitude (noun)

the state of being a slave or completely subject to someone more powerful.…"you've got thousands of years of peasant servitude to make up for"

i literally never heard a single person advocating servitude as relates to immigrants.

One needs only to look to the US and see the fundamentalist arseholes over there. LDS churches are pretty batshit crazy. And then the extreme end of world head bangers, are as crazy as any Islamic terrorist you will hear about I'd argue.

You’re after reminding me of a show on Disney Plus that I tried to watch recently, but it was actually such a dismally inaccurate representation of LDS that I could only stomach the first episode of it… and I’ve watched Prey and three episodes of She-Hulk before I couldn’t take any more, to give you some idea - I’ll stomach a lot, but even I have my limits 😂

But I did a bit a bit of a search after I was done with Under the Banner of Heaven to see was it just me, or what was the general consensus of the show. Turned out I wasn’t wrong in thinking it’s hitting all the silly stereotypes for it’s actual intended audience who, when they think of LDS, it conjures up all the silly stereotypes, just like the way Prey does, which also just happens to be a complete shìt-show from beginning to end, but this IS the multiculturalism thread… actually the latest Dr. Strange Multiverse nonsense, or the unrelenting cosmic shyte that was the Thor movie… dear God, it’s as though there really is a cultural vacuum which is constantly churning out turgid, festering shyte 😒

But back to the LDS crowd, while the usual media outlets were raving about how great the show is, members of the LDS and even the detectives themselves involved in the case, couldn’t recognise themselves in the characters playing them. They noticed the same thing I did, apart from anything else that stood out more than anything - the members of the LDS just don’t talk like that, even amongst themselves -

The characters speak as though their dialogue was written in another language and then run through a creepy-Mormon version of Google Translate. This is especially noticeable with the show’s liberal use of Heavenly Father, a term that Latter-day Saints use to address God in prayer and in other religious contexts. The show’s Mormon characters use it constantly in conversation: “You can’t flip an upside-down cake to save your life, Heavenly Father knows”; “Heavenly Father wants me to have babies and grow Zion”; “Heavenly Father answered my prayer for a Skyhawk”; “Capitalism is part of Heavenly Father’s plan”; “If you extract this down to a juice, it is like drinking Heavenly Father’s love.”

I tried for a while to write down every example of this tic, wondering the whole time how they could have gotten something like this so wrong. But I gave up after a few episodes, once I realized what was going on. To say that I have never met a Mormon in my life who talks like this would be to miss the point. These lines were not intended as shibboleths for Mormon viewers—they are there to serve a stereotype, to exoticize a people and flatten their faith tradition.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/under-the-banner-of-heaven-hulu-mormonism/661279/

Craig Foster  1:19:30

Thank you. Now as with the various officers in the in the police department, as well as when you were visiting with people or better yet when you were interrogating the possible suspects. Did you refer to them as brother and sister as you would if you were in a church setting?

Randy Johnson  1:19:55

Not at all. I never heard it. I would suspect that If somebody was talking to Richard Stoll, they may or may not have referred to him as president scope, which was his ecclesiastical title. But we did not commonly or even infrequently ever refer to each other as brother, sister this that we were a professional law enforcement agency. And I was known to be just a little bit military and formal. I was always chief. My officers were always dressed by their first name or by their title. We did not refer to each other as brother this and brother that and when we interview people, we don’t bring up religion as a twist to get them to. To confess, I was that was forbidden. When I worked at BYU Police Department, it just seemed a wise idea. We dealt with the facts of the crime and not the religion of the person who was involved. The lefties brought religion into it, we didn’t.

https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/under-the-banner-of-heaven-fact-vs-fiction/under-the-banner-of-heaven-randy-johnson

It reminded me of the bunched knickers there were at the time not long after 9/11 when Muslims were up in arms about the portrayal of Islam on shows like 24 -

https://amp.theguardian.com/media/2005/jan/30/broadcasting.religion

Can’t remember how that series ended actually, but I know 24 is also available on Disney Plus cos I’m on the second series… there’s nothing on Netflix or Amazon, and Sky is just gone to the dogs altogether, apart from the odd documentary series 😒

Its interesting alright. Your post supported extremism alright but the reactions seems to suggest your form of extremism isnt extreme enough for sone here.