Westmeath school gets temporary injunction banning a suspended teacher from it's premises

Cool the jets there. Do you not see the irony of you preaching about common courtesy while starting your reply in the manner you did.

My point was that the are loads of good reasons why it's not in a child's best interests to be called by a preferred pronoun. The common courtesy argument is a bit facile in that context.

I Hope the ministers for Health, Education and Justice are taking good notes these days for when the are called before a tribunal of enquiry which is virtually guaranteed to take place in 15 to 20 years time. Minors haven't the legal or mental capacity to make decisions that will result in their sterilisation and it is very easy to think that many children down the line will ask where were the adults in the room and why they would facilitate a child to drastically and permanently alter their body.

Why is it that society is celebrating this and foisting gender theory on our kids? It's only my view but I don't think kids should be thought that if they don't particularly relate to the characteristics of their sex that they are transgender. The government permitting policy in this area to vested interest groups instead of professional in the fields of science, psychology, sociology, health and education.

Adults can do as they please, and best of luck to them as far as I'm concerned, but the pseudo science of gender theory shouldn't be muttered within 2 miles of a school.

It's bizarre that a tiny but vocal minority have such a strong influence in government policy on health and education.

Another Burke cheerleader who insists what they believe trumps actual facts.

Just feel sorry for anyone at this part of the story still buying any of Burkes guff.

I think you're right about schools not being able to insist on their teachers belonging to their own sect. However, given enough supply, they would be in a position to issue a standard rejection letter, and choose members of their own sect without referring to such.

In the case of a generally well-off sect, better-paying career options would be available. Traditionally, for instance, Finance & banking in Ireland were protestant-dominated, as was Trinity College (where within living memory even the cleaners used to be protestant), while many of the professions had a much higher proportion of protestants than the 5% or so in the general population. As a child and well into adulthood I attended one of these doctors' practices, and did so very happily until I moved to a different area.

The trend in Ireland that has seen a huge increase in professional services has also seen more people who in an earlier time would have gone into teaching as a respectable, well-paying option now going for better-paying professions in our expanded finance sector, IT and so on. This leaves fewer people available to join the teaching profession. However, catholics make/made up the vast bulk of our working classes, meaning that there is a large cohort of people available to move up and replace the children of the middle class who have moved into finance IT etc; the available working class cohort is much smaller for protestant sects on the southern side of the border.

All of this leaves protestant sects with a small pool of protestants aspiring to be teachers. Which brings me back to my point about WHS jumping at the opportunity to employ a highly motivated person apparently sharing their ethos.

Omg I called my daughter a boy by mistake earlier does that mean she won't be able to have babies?? 😂😂😂😂

What a load of crap. Calling someone by the name/pronoun they choose isn't going to magically change their physical gender. If they decide as an adult to get gender reassignment then let them. It's not an easy life so if using their preferred name/pronoun makes their life a little easier then why would you not. You can have doubts about transgender issues and what's going on pushing the agenda without making one child's life harder. The wider issues are just that.

We all know the legalities here. We all know that Burke could go into court and provide the guarantee he was asked to give.

However it is disingenuous to claim that the pronoun issue is extraneous to the matter.

Anyone who would use the word "retardation" in a post is just embarrassing themselves really

Reductio ad absurdem. Sigh.

You're dead wrong and I've quoted the section of the law which permits schools to do this.

Everything you've presented has been complete strawman arguments

• no one's talking about contracts
• no one's talking about stetilisation
• no one's talking about ruining people's lives (changing pronouns is not going to ruin your life, ffs!)

Except you.

And on top of that you walk about

• "good reasons" wht kids shouldn't be allowed to change pronouns
• it ruins peoples lives in other jurisdictions

Without ever actually thinking whether or not these statements are true. And we're just supposed to take your words for it? Do YOU even believe this ****? What reasons? Have you ever heard or read a good reason? Or do you read one story and think that "that's it - everyone's going to be effected the same - I can use this in the threads to prove everything and no one will notice I'm exaggerating and bullshitting?"

Well, we kinda do...