Lord of the Rings - [Amazon] *Spoilers*

@thomas 123 There is no sense of time in this show.

How did they get 'Celebrimbor's forge Tower' built up so quickly.

Why has it elvish design features if it is being built by Dwarfs?

https://youtu.be/RC5oM3R4Hj0?t=572 ~ Council of the Rings

@pjohnson Thanks for the meme gif, have been on the lookout for that.

Why they decide to include that when it has been pointed she lacks emotion in other clips.

The INSANE (lack of) Acting Skills of Galadriel!

Yeah , like how long is Galadriel on the island so far? It’s seems they all(writers) said duck it , time, distance and general common sense don’t exist.

Also is it possible they couldn’t attract any actors of note since the script is so bad?

last bit of a rant , how copy and paste is not Sauron to Aragorn - in every passing episode he looks more like him and all of a sudden he’s king of a people now he has to go and lead … come on like.

It's not exactly spectacular and some of the cast admittedly aren't fantastic either but it's reasonably good, decent scale and production values make it an easy enough watch in my own opinion. It looks great.

What's mildly annoying is that some of the best actors are just bit parts.

My biggest problem is that most of the cast are overly theatrical, there's not a real sense of them being real, multi-dimensional living people in their own worlds - it very, very much feels like a stage piece a lot of the time.

Still though I'd say I'm enjoying it. Not sure if it was Ep3 or Ep4 but there's a scene where Galadriel is quietly hustling three full grown men into a cell like bold children, like seriously was that a "Oh that's terrible...., never mind we're out of time it'll be grand just shove it in there" moment or what.

I find the Harefoot stuff is pretty awful, that's the only part where I'm willing the scene to end as soon as it starts.

All things said though I'd say it's a 6.5/10 for me so far. Could be better. Could be a lot worse based on some of the comments I've seen prior to watching.

To add something positive about all this amazon "Tolkien" show.

It has rekindled my interest in the Tolkien verse and picked up 2 works of art - The Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales.

Both beautiful illustrated editions but particularly Silmarillion, slipcase limited edition (4,000 copies) - just gorgeous.

Also watched the extended edition of Fellowship on BluRay with my son and it's like night and day compared with amazons crap, pure Tolkien and great acting and dialogue - and every cast member nails it.

Looking forward to the next 2.

And of course reading these 2 books again.

Tolkien lives on!!

Where was the money spent? On buying the rights obviously is a big one, some of the cgi is shockingly bad, no big name actors, if you didn't know how much it cost it's watchable, with a big budget comes big expectations,it's a bit like the Russian army, someone siphoned off alot of money.

I was watching the second hobbit last night , the scene in Rivendell with Galadriel, Saroman, Gandalf and Elrond jumped out. The stark contrast between Galadriel There and what Amazon has created is schocking. That scene to me is a little humorous, with the telecenetic chat happen while the others are rambling away however with the music and speech you really get an instant respect for Galadriel. The grace and her importance in the world is immediately apparent. I think the fact of the matter here is Amazon had a gem of a character in Galadriel and they have fired the book out the window and given writers full reign over her. It now doesn’t matter if she has an arc, she simply is not galadrial. I have to say the actress portraying her cannot be blamed here the writing is pure trash.

the sea is always right …

nobody gets left behind …

Aragorn, Sam and Frodo look and act A likes.

Gandalf maybe?

only one elf soilder who can fight in the army of elf soilders who all got captured off screen ? But a kid with a bust leg can outrun the orcs later on?

Elrond clearly has a private jet to cross the world map in a day and apparently only one outfit(maybe it’s like the great British bake off and we are assumed too stupid to see other outfits)

this series is turning out to be a massive dissapointment.

Its probably the ventriloquist with his hand up her back forgetting to move his thumb to make her jaw work.

Generous offer, but you'd probably have to pay a Tolkien nerd to take that off your hands 😂

Manga? Now that might have been the right genre to tell this story...

Supposedly Season 2 starts filming in the UK in Oct, to be a fly on the wall, they must be sh1tting themselves, wouldnt they need to delay it by 6 months or or a year if they were to learn any lessons?

Ep 4 done and while it was a bit of an improvement here and there, I think I'm close to bailing on this. I'm just not enjoying it and sit there wondering why I'm even bothering when I could be watching something else better instead. None of this is Tolkien and I don't think Amazon ever really intended it to be. It's really their own fantasy world and they've just raped a popular brand name that fans and casuals would have been aware of.

It's still not utterly dreadful, but it's just so dull and uninteresting which really shouldn't be the case. I just cannot, for the life of me, see how this is going to last over 2 series, never mind the proposed 5. It kinda puts me in mind of 'Wayward Pines' or 'Under the Dome' or something like that, where everything became laboured very quickly and the wheels fell off resulting in a cancellation because people stopped watching.

Any predictions for tomorrow ?

lol

Surely it's past time they gave some sort of steer on Starman's identity...

Some of you are way OTT in this thread.

It's a decent enough watch, far from perfect but nowhere near the train wreck you make it out to be here.