Was the government right to put no limit on the amount of Ukrainian refugees in Ireland? Read OP

What?

None of:

• its finances
• its hospital / healthcare waiting lists / number of beds
• the number of Gardai and their resources per district and per head of population in each area
• number of prison places
• amount spent on social welfare weekly and annually
• public housing stock

have anything to do with the government putting emergency/contingency plans in place for energy shortages this winter - which is what I'd responded to.

What I want to know is are they paying their own utility bills, and are they paying any rent at all, are they contributing anything does anyone know?

It's just that I know a fella who jokingly said the other night that he could arrive in Ireland, say he's from Ukraine and would get Free Electric and heating for the Winter, and food and lodging (in a tent I suppose) together with a chunk of moolah no means test. LOL. His name is Sergei LobyermoneyoverhereDov

Compare like with like, please. Welfare benefits (which they're entitled to under the TPD) aren't subject to a means test. Allowances are. Absolutely no discrimination. You may as well complain that when you last went to A&E, you weren't given an MRI for the burns to your foot, and this is discrimination because the guy with the concussion was given one.

Economics a) isn't the subject of this thread; b) has a definition for a recession is. And going by the commonly accepted definition, we're not in one yet, despite.

Missed this first time round. What sort of bollocks is this? The energy crisis isn't "simply" anything. There's a rake of factors involved, starting with the biggest - Putin's invasion of Ukraine - and also including factors including Germany moving away from nuclear, energy companies seizing the opportunity to massively increase profits (because electricity price is stupidly tied to has price, despite renewables), and a bizarre decision by the government and APB to allow as many data centres as possible without building capacity first. It is not the fault of the Ukrainians, and an extra 50,000 people has a far smaller effect than a handful of data centres.

A medical card is means teasted for an Irish citizen . I just filled one out for a 75 year old . 8 pages long and every income and bank account had to be filled in . Every penny must be accounted for and declared .

Again, none of it is my opinion.

It was the brains trust on here that has completely redefined what a recession is. Which apparently now means continuous growth. 🤷‍♂️

So the husband is working which is good, but they can't find anywhere to rent.

So they are in the same situation as hundreds of thousands of Irish people are in.

I thought the government defenders told us their are plenty of places to rent?

Compared with France who require an income statement for 2021 before paying anything.

"You can calculate the approximate amount of the subsidy on the CAF website. You will be asked to provide information about your financial situation and rental housing.

The service will answer whether a person can count on financial assistance and in what amount. If so, you need to make an online request for assistance and create an account on the fund's website.

To fill out the profile, you should prepare the following documents:

• declaration of income of family members and payment of taxes for the last year

• rental certificates, family composition

• bank details

• a copy of the permit for temporary protection in France

Child support payments

Families with two or more children can also claim monthly financial assistance. CAF will cover the cost of education and maintenance of children under 20 years of age. These can be expenses for educational institutions, clothing, food, children's recreation, etc.

The amount of child support depends on the financial situation of the family, the number of children and their age. For example, for low-income parents, this amount per month is:

• 134 euros for two children,

• 307 euros for three children,

• 479 euros for four children,

• 172 euros for another child

You can calculate the amount of assistance in the Paje calculator. And you can apply for assistance online on the CAF website. The following documents are required for filling:

• bank account,

• a copy of temporary protection,

• a copy of the passport,

• copies of passports or birth certificates of children,

• declaration on the status of family benefits and housing allowance,

• income declaration for 2021

Never heard of this. Do you have a link? And when you use the word"we" do you mean "we in Dublin" or "we in Brussels" because I think the latter makes decisions on that.

Also it doesn't matter what the laws say since migrants aren't much into obeying laws and no action can be taken against them.