Russia - threadbanned users in OP

That phrase you (and the Russian administration) keep using isn’t nearly as clever as you think it is.

This post inspired me to go back and read the first page. So, the first few posts are unremarkable and the thread was quickly forgotten about. Last November, a full five months later it's resurrected and then immediately WHAM, the Putin admirers arrive. Funnily enough you don't see too many of those posters (who aren't banned) post here anymore.

I referred to self delusion fact regard to your posting yesterday. Here it is again.

Elected is not imposed.

Food secure by whose metric though, that's the question?

Do we have any significant heavy industry production? Can we say, for example, produce tractors? Or raw materials for spare parts, like oil based products ie: rubber for tyres, plastic etc. Can we produce enough fertilizer?

The list is practically endless. If we have to overly rely on outside assistance for these things, then you cannot really say our agriculture sector is self reliant. We're food secure based on current conditions.

I'm not referring to current conditions however, when I suggest that we are a highly vulnerable nation.

And despite our economic capabilities, because our political system consistently creates terrible leaders, we are highly vulnerable to poor decision making from these leaders. Hence why our nation went bankrupt, despite having so many apparent economic advantages on our side.

You cannot escape the consequences of bad leadership, no matter what area of society it's in.

Ukraine has been pivoting away from Russia for 20 years, first with the Orange Revolution and then Maidan. You're saying that the US is installing leaders in Ukraine, when it's pretty clear that the grassroots in Ukraine has been striving to escape the Russian sphere of influence for decades. If you're a Ukrainian, especially a young one, the choice is stark - be a part of the CSTO countries which are authoritarian, corrupt, socially regressive and economically stagnant, or be a part of the EU and the West with the prosperity and opportunity that entails. It's a fairly easy choice. Unfortunately, it's something Russia cannot handle. Well, here's a bit of truth for you - until Russia stops being such a shít country (vs what it could be), it's going to keep losing friends and partners. As the saying goes - don't go chasing butterflies, but rather tend to your own garden.

Now, as for the USA trying to invade countries like Cuba whose populations didn't want them there, that was wrong. It's about as simple as that. Similarly, the population of Ukraine do not welcome Russian soldiers, so it's time for them to go home. They will go home, but would they like to go back upright or horizontal? Talkative or taciturn?

They would laugh at how hilarious the attempt was (and it would be hilarious given how disastrously all russians attempt at anything is going these days).

There is no one as dumb as trump in Mexico, so they would happily take the money and putin would get zilch in return bar maybe a new pair of high heel boots as a thank you.

The west needs to go all out in arms production-

We're pretty food secure in the medium term in an emergency, Irish people won't starve unless we allow Irish produced food to be exported while imports are restricted

We have plenty of farm machinery that won't all immediately break down, and there are thousands of tractors and plenty of spare parts in forecourts and warehouses around the country

If the emergency became a chronic shortage we'd be in trouble, but by that time we'd begin adapting our expectations and reallocating resources towards providing essentials

There might be some percusson cap muskets left over from the Crimean War. Or maybe some flintlocks from 1812.

Have you started to read any of the rubbish link dumbs you post yet. You admitted yesterday that you don't.

@Housefree . No Russian will be cold this winter..

Tens of thousands of Russians will be cold ,

cold in the ground 🪦🪦🪦

Yes, while everyone's preferred outcome was for russia not to invade with their next preferred outcome to be russia retreating with their tail between the legs.

In the absence of russia doing anything honorable.

Then yes, the next best thing is that the western equipment built to efficiently kill enemy troops while keeping their own troops safe, be used by ukrainians to defend their home country accordingly and as efficiently as possible to put as many invaders out of action as possible.

You, of course, agree with that assessment? That russia should toddle away and get working on fixing their broken economy?

No, actually it's the opposite. If russians are allowed to advance there will be more mass graves, so helping Ukrainians with arms and intel and resources actually saves lives. In the areas they occupy there will be ethnic cleansing like they did it many times before, so this kind of peace and appeasement should not be an option.

And while US are no angels, certainly they are no evil scum like the russians, so please stop. And even if they were, it doesn't matter now, it's of no consequence to what happens in Ukraine.

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That's one option, the other is to ridicule the poor quality content of their posts.