GoLoud Cash Machine

It’s almost the exact same as what tons of tv shows like the Late Late have been doing for years. I’ve even seen some tv stations run the same competition across a multiple of shows with the closing date weeks away which I would argue is worse.

The Uk Bauer stations have been running it for ages as well so it must work well or else they wouldn’t have introduced it here

I have noticed the figures are getting bigger in it.

Are they jacking it up to attract/entice more callers?

Fool's and their money....

The definition of skill Vs luck has been completely diminished not just with this but all similar competitions. All are de facto lotteries operating outside gambling / lottery regulation. Consumer has no idea of chance to win, prize %, oversight of operation etc.

Risk is that this will eventually attract regulation (the bigger it gets), if it does not burn out first (if punters tire of it).

I suspect prizes are not 50:50, but even if it is now there must be a continuous temptation in Bauer to reduce the prize %. It may die out that way.

From some of the posts I have read on this forum, it does appear that some think they are listening to a station-specific cash competition. In fairness, if you only listen to one station and you are not aware of its ownership and the station keeps being referred to beside the words "cash machine", you could be mistaken for thinking that. Except, of course, it must occur to some of these one-station listeners that the phrase "playing across the Go Loud network of stations" must have some significance.

Radio is dumbing down anyway, this is just another example.

Take 'The Last Word', and it's ridiculous 5 at 5 and 6 at 6. Trying to be all trendy when it's actually awful to listen to..."yeah, that's right Matt".

And then we have Claire Bryne. Took over a very good quality, prime time radio show and turned it into hairdresser material.

And do you ever listen to the crap that Ray D'Arcy peddles for half a mill a year? It's standard is awful, like hospital radio stuff.

This reminds me a bit of the old 98FM cash call back in the day (early 90s I’d say). It seemed to be similar, they’d give out a cash total and make a call. How did you register for it? I doubt they just picked a number out of the phone book?

Back on topic, I’ve heard the whole “playing across the GoLoud network of stations” spiel. Do they give different cash totals on different stations? Or does it mean that you could end up getting a call from Spin even though you heard it on Today FM?

The biggest mystery to me is how many times it rolls over. People go to the trouble and expense of making a call, and they only have to be ready for a few hours to get a call back to win. But then they don't answer the phone.

That would be against the terms and conditions and illegal. If anyone seriously accused them of this, I’m sure they would have the phone records to prove the numbers they tried and the length of the calls.

I wouldn’t blame presenters for putting in an effort to sell it either. Surely it gets boring doing the same stuff every day? Their PDs are more than likely paying attention to who puts in an effort and who just says “the cash machine is worth twenty grand today. Listen to win” too…

What about all other lotteries, tools will always find the way how to waste money. It's fine by me.

I notice in the terms and conditions that they reserve the right to have a "must win" draw, where they keep ringing numbers until someone answers with the correct amount. I suspect that is because of the recent Lotto rumpus. They would make a judgement when to pay out if it rolled over to a very big amount. So as not to attract too much interest from the usual crowd who want to get offended by everything.

Sure, but that applies to a lot of things. Eg, I could probably find a piano competition I could enter, but never having learned how to play, I wouldn't do very well. A relation of mine buys the Racing Post seven days a week and studies it closely. Knowledge definitely helps when you're punting on horse racing.

Well, would you like to know what your chances are in the cash machine, or what percentage of the entries are given back in prize money? Would it make a difference to you if 500 people entered, or 5000 or 50,000? You don't have any visibility of that right now, or how much money they are making out of it.

If I decide to send 2.50 worth of message, all I want to know is the prize I might get.

You do realise whoever is after starting cash machine wants to make profit. And that's normal.

But you have a point, a bit of visibility would be probably nice.

On the other hand, how much visibility in incomes you have on poker tables or horse racing or any other gambling activities.

I sometimes have Spin on in the background on my working from home days, however, its become unbearable lately as they never stop plugging the 'cash machine' competition.

At least the other stations in the Baeur group aren't as annoying about constantly pimping it.

It has to be off putting for listeners like me who have no interest in gambling.

I find myself listening to 98fm and fm104 a lot more lately, hopefully others are doing the same and Spin gsts the hint next time the listenership figures are published!

In gaming and gambling you are 100% out of control of the result, form or otherwise.

In Cash Machine you are in control of knowing what the total cash amount is. People get called and don't know the answer.

T&C's actually say 12 times *per draw* per week. So 5 draws per week is 60 entries.

There is also a different keyword for each station (Spin /Spin SW share one), each one a different entry route with the same 12 entry per draw limit ... so this may enable play 240 times a week!

Would imagine this is totally imprqctical to enforce - what happens the 13th time you enter a draw. Would your text be rejected? Would you be charged? Would your final text be easily taken out of the draw?

So I would think there is no practical limit, certainly not like there is a limit say on an online gambling account.

Yeh I think if it gets to the point of needing to go over €100k I think it’s more likely they’ll do a ‘guaranteed winner’ of an amount below that

Has their purchase of Red FM gone through yet?

They’re not near done with it yet

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