Abuse of Referees

The referee should protect players too by sending off , carding repeat offenders

And then maybe you could explain what you were inferring here ?

You seem to have missed that ...

A ref does have a duty to protect the players, and the rules are designed with that in mind (as well as other stuff) but particularly yellow and red card offences are aimed at the protection of players. But the ref also cannot do anything until something has actually happened.

But whether the ref applies the rules as the others players think does not give the players the right to assault the other team or indeed the ref.

In many cases it is a judgment call. What was the intent? Some cases are black and white, others are not so easy. When intent comes into it, the player doing the action will claim innocence, and the other team will demand the red card.

But as many that call for strict rules to be implemented, you will have the same again claiming the ref was too harsh and ruined the game. How many times have we heard that the ref should 'let the game flow'? So, hey ref, we know the players are fouling, but too many fouls and now we want you to let the fouls go, except the fouls on us that we think we would score from otherwise.

That is the contradiction that the ref faces, so the best way to deal with it is to apply the rules as well as you can.

These incidents are merely a symptom of a widespread disease that is now endemic in the GAA. I see there was another incident where an U15 match in Kerry was called off due to the assault of a mentor. Seems to be an attitude of what happens over the white lines stays there. Its now heading towards a full blown crisis.

Is it any wonder though that this is the case?Think back to the 2019 hurling final. Richie Hogan does Cathal Barrett with a flying elbow to the chin and is rightly sent off. The referee applied the rules 100% correctly. Donal Og Cusack backs the decision during the HT analysis and Henry Shefflin has a big puss up on him over it. Claiming that it was his upper arm, and he didn't go in to do him. Taking the attitude of it's a man's game. Yes, the games are physical but the rules are there for a reason. When you have that kind of Neanderthal analysis from so called pundits it's no wonder the hurlers on the ditch at your local Junior game are abusing referees.

You live in a perfect world?

Most humans interpert an incident differently. No two refs are the same. Theres very little 'training' of refs at lower level soccer, and even less for gaa refs(afaik).

AT higher levels theres assesors there watching the ref - but an assessor opinion of an incident can be different to the refs due to angle, personal preference etc.

If its against your team its wrong

If its for your team its right.

Angles - what you see from you angle can be way different to what a ref would see on the pitch, or other spectators see.

Personal viewpoint - A ref might prefer more physical contact in games, others want less - you cant train that.

Personality -some refs just ref for the money, and want as little hassle as possible , and will just flow through games, and try create as little controversy as possible. Some are very strict , some less so..... Human nature.

VAR - even with var , they cant come to 'correct' decisions in the EPL, so how can a ref on the field on his own do it ?

You said no one one will accept solutions.

How does any reporting system work. It highlights any outliers.

Chill out.

I suspect you are one of the 'lads' on the sideline shouting for decisions, then off to the pub to blame the ref for your clubs failures.

And wouldnt have the balls to stand in the middle with a whistle... I know a lot like you.

Chill - im fine lad. Try say something constructive .... 😘

I think many will acknowledge that referees are human failible and have one of the hardest jobs in the game. They need to be supported and they are not. That said even if someone makes a mistakes hopefully the vast majority of decisions will be correct.

Wow...

Are you able to expand/explain more?

Or just throw out random words?

Not directly involving a referee but the referee has come under fire from some for calling off the game!

Incident from last weekend at an u-17 match when an adult came on to the pitch and man handled one of the opposition players.

For me, it's quite easy. If any member of a club walks onto the field of play (other than medic etc) during a match. The game should automatically be forfeited, even before any incident occurs.

They need to get fairly clear and severe with punishments.

From a quick look rugby bans throughout the globe seem to range from 18months up to life bans for various assaults.

The two year max suspension is nuts.

There needs to be a criminal law deterrent. Nothing stopping referees from taking civil case either against culprit, club and association.

A few payouts and legal costs might hasten prompt action

It should be, but it wont be.

These cases in the news could/should be a watershed as regards the GAA and how far are they willing to go with bans/deterrents on these people that assault/abuse refs.

I dont think the GAA ever took bans seriously (as can be seen by the high profile players that have appealed bans that would rule them out of big games) and until they start hammering these aggressors and then have the balls to stand behind , and uphold, the bans , we will be reading about these occurrances more often.

Society needs a deterrent , otherwise they just go ahead, without fear of any reprisal.