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Membership Cork area- 2023

  • 23-09-2022 12:14pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 10


    Just wondering if anyone has information regarding membership in the Cork area for 2023 , I'm in ballincollig

    Been out of game for 5 years. Used to be a member in Blarney but would prefer a different club if something suitable available.

    Closest is Lee valley but not sure if they are open for membership. I sent an email but didn't receive a reply

    Open to any suggestions, or info



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭Dbu


    All Cork clubs are open for membership, prices vary massively

    I would contact them all by phone



  • Registered Users Posts: 33 sean.ocall


    Muskerry is pretty close to you. Busy course but quite nice. Greens are always in great nick.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,283 ✭✭✭slingerz


    All depends on your budget. Muskerry/Lee Valley very close by but expensive, Macroom a little forward west but cheaper.

    it all comes down to budget really



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 751 ✭✭✭ShivasIrons




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 751 ✭✭✭ShivasIrons


    The first consideration for joining a club is distance or proximity, not price. No point joining a club 45 minutes away if there's one on your doorstep.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭Dbu


    Douglas taking applications until this Friday, so I presume there are vacancies



  • Registered Users Posts: 348 ✭✭frink


    I applied to join Douglas for this year and despite having an ex-President and Senior Cup player propose me, my application was unsuccessful. 8 memberships for 50+ applicants.

    Ended up joining Monkstown and very happy there, and practice facilities are improving. I believe they are still advertising full membership



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,532 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    What's the financial situation there? They built a big clubhouse and almost went bust, but seem to be doing some good works there. It's a lovely course



  • Registered Users Posts: 348 ✭✭frink


    Yes I think they were in trouble 3-4 years ago but seem to be very settled financially now. Chipping green opened this summer and is great albeit still bedding in. Full driving range is in construction at the moment.


    Lovely course, aside from 3-5 and the greens have been excellent all summer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭big_drive


    Heard previously that Lee Valley had reintroduced entrance money but not certain if correct



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,532 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Ah thats good to hear. It is somewhere I may end up joining in a few years if it suits, although not a fan of hello money.

    What we're the issues with 3-5? I liked those holes myself although wish I didn't try lay up on 3.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 344 ✭✭Buttros


    The 3rd hole in Monkstown is not great. It's a blind second shot and a good second shot can often take a few mins to find if you find it at all and it's the one hole with a poor green. I've no issues with 4 and 5. The fifth is a tricky par 4 given its length and the fact it has no bunkers. The 4th is a nice little index 18 par 4. Reachable for most golfers I would think. I like that index 18 is undebatably the easiest hole on the course. Would have eagle putts there fairly regularly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 31 chasingbirdies


    3rd hole is the worst on the course by far - up there with the worst hole in all of Cork I'd say... a completely blind 2nd shot where really good shots can be punished very harshly and really bad shots can be absolutely perfect

    4th is what it is.. in the summer it is very short, could be hitting an iron up there and running onto the green, when its cold and windy it can be a tricky tee shot because you feel like you always have to go for it and if you are trying to carry it up there it gets a lot tighter -especially to the bushes on the right .. which the land naturally falls

    5th is of divided opinion I think, I like it because I can carry it a good way up the hill and still have a short iron/wedge in, alot of ppl find it very long though with the gradient of the hill - tricky green as well big slope from left to right as you approach, can have some interesting putts



  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭phelimb


    Yeah, that swung it for me in the past...old club was an hours drive where realistically I'd go once a week at most. Current club is less than 10 mins away so I go so much more, even just for the range/practice area and maybe a few holes in the evenings. I've probably recouped the increased subscription costs in reduced petrol costs...

    To the OP, if Lee Valley or Muskery aren't options for you there are many courses within 30mins of Ballincollig - Bandon, Mallow, Fermoy, East Cork and Macroom as well as the likes of Douglas and Monkstown.

    Speaking of Monkstown - I was never a fan of 3 and 5 either (4 was OKish). Holes 6 and 7 made up for it and 17, 18 are quite nice/strong finishing holes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 348 ✭✭frink


    I am probably being overly harsh on 4,5, its just the stretch of holes I wouldn't be a fan of. 3 is one of the worst holes I've played. Hit good shots and gone over the back, hit bad shots and ended up on the green.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,532 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Yeah seems to be the trend based on comments, I imagine in dry weather it's impossible to hold the green



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,283 ✭✭✭slingerz


    well there is if its 10K on your doorstep or €800 45 mins away. Price and available disposable income are key concerns for a lot of people



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭big_drive


    Lot of clubs took in members during Covid. I wonder will numbers start dropping back again in next couple seasons if financial pressure starts to hit people



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭coillcam


    A bit of the financial hit and a bit of normal life resuming I'd imagine. Lads around my age early-mid 30s are back at GAA/soccer/5 a side etc. The social calendar also has picked up and holidays are another cost to be considered. Less time to play golf so maybe not in a position to justify full membership.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭big_drive


    I wonder how long until clubs feel the hit. In a strange way Covid proved a positive for some struggling clubs with increases in membership and revenue from green fees, open comps, etc.

    Even equipment prices seemed to jump hugely as a result. Some second hand clubs have sold for crazy money past 2 years



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 751 ✭✭✭ShivasIrons


    The first club golfers will nearly always look at is the closest one to them, if they can't afford that one they will look at the next closest one etc. I've never said that price wasn't a concern, just that it's not the first concern.

    The issue for clubs where decision makers think that price is the only concern is they market only on price and not all the other reasons why golfers join clubs, it also prevents the clubs from running as profitable businesses. I can certainly understand a big difference between an €800 subscription and a €2,000 subscription and a €40 green fee and a €200 green fee but to think that an €800 sub is more attractive than a €900 sub or a €40 green fee is more attractive than a €50 green fee is why so many clubs get into financial difficulty.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19 Username1_


    Do you happen to know price of muskerry considering joining them next year?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭big_drive


    Think last year it was around €1,350 , they had upped it a lot on previous years. Think there was more people looking at joining clubs since covid. That interest might start to decrease again with everyday costs rising, so there might be deals available again for next year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭big_drive


    Muskerry advertising their membership on social media this evening

    €1,501 for next year. So up another €150 which surprised me. I don't see it as a course worth that annual fee



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,892 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    I’d say it’ll be increases across the board nationally with memberships continuing at an all-time-high



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭big_drive


    I thought with other costs rising so much in everybody's life that demand for golf membership wouldn't be high on list of priorities but looks like you could be correct



  • Registered Users Posts: 10 leesidegolfer


    I see cork golf being mentioned on another thread, reminded me to come back to this for anyone interested in membership info

    I still haven't joined any place but this is the info I got from clubs

    Macroom €875

    Blarney €960

    Muskerry €1,500

    Lee Valley €1,248 plus €1,500 joining fee. Currently full for new members. May take on members in April/may

    Not sure what is the best option to be honest. Lee valley is probably my favourite course of those but paying entrance money is annoying really



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭big_drive


    Is €1,500 very pricy for muskerry? Or just a sign of where things are at moment



  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭phelimb


    Regarding Lee Valley, hopefully "Joining Fees" aren't making a comeback in general. Some of the "Hello" money back in the day was nuts. Was Blarney 10K or something when it opened?

    @big_drive , yeah 1500 seems a lot for Muskerry alright. I wonder does that include a bar subscription and/or a bunch of green fees or something etc?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭big_drive


    Would you believe Blarney was €15,000 when it opened, I know 2 lads who paid it at the time. And one isn't even playing golf anymore. Absolutely a sign of the times , crazy money. At one stage they had a scheme running that if a member brought in a new member they were given a cut of the joining fee, something like €1,500. Shows the way money was being thrown around in Ireland at the time

    The Muskerry €1,500 includes the GUI levy and a bar levy



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,283 ✭✭✭slingerz


    The best option there is Macroom. Muskerry isn’t worth 1,500, LV being just shy of 3K for a new member isn’t worth it. Blarney similar to Macroom so all depends on your commute



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭big_drive


    Cobh are doing membership at €77 a month. I'm not mad about the course but would say it's good value for anyone living within a decent proximity to it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭big_drive


    Speaking of macroom earlier anyone know a bit more about club at moment.

    Is it busy/difficult to get on timesheet,etc?

    I presume new bypass might make it easier get up the town to course and save a few mins travel time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,532 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    It's how most people do the membership there, I'll likely rejoin in a few years when the child can look after themselves. Have some new equipment so would like to get a go at the place again, definitely think can get the handicap down there, it's a tough spot



  • Registered Users Posts: 10 leesidegolfer


    Taking money out of it would people rate muskerry or Lee Valley as a better course?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 197 ✭✭IHateNewShoes


    Lee Valley hands down for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭big_drive


    I'd probably agree. Haven't played either course in last couple years but I always like Lee Valley



  • Registered Users Posts: 197 ✭✭IHateNewShoes


    Have played both over the last few years, and think Lee Valley is miles above Muskerry. Both have open competitions on a weekly basis if you wanted to get out and play them before deciding, provided you have a handicap. Not 100% sure when they start either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭big_drive


    Muskerry is a lot shorter from what I remember, probably 2018 since last played it.

    Played lee valley in 2021 but weather was awful so wasn't a very enjoyable day.

    Have they put in new practice facilities in LV in the past year?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭Deporhostia


    Lee Valley put in an artificial chipping green, maybe in the last 18 months or so. It is beyond awful.


    I would personally rate Muskerry as good as Lee Valley (probably slightly prefer it to be honest). It has a couple of biggish climbs which I know some people moan about, but the greens are always great, it has excellent par 3s, and the finishing 2 holes are excellent.


    As previous guy said, they're both easy to get on so you can make your own mind up.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭Dbu


    Muskerry is a member owned course, Lee Valley is privately owned,.

    I would also take that into account



  • Registered Users Posts: 10 leesidegolfer




  • Registered Users Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Mac_Lad71


    Well members owned clubs are meant to be run and operated by members for the benefit of all members (not always the case of course) which makes it easier to manage course improvements, infrastructure, time sheets etc.

    Privately owned clubs are run as businesses by the owners with the members interests often secondary to that.

    Having been a member of both types of club in the past I would definitely choose the former.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭big_drive


    An artificial green only sounds like something that would work for putting

    To be fair I've never seen the greens poor in muskerry, always top quality over the years.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,283 ✭✭✭slingerz


    No issues really unless your looking at prime time Saturday/Sunday morning then it’s a case of be ready when the sheet opens



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,283 ✭✭✭slingerz




  • Registered Users Posts: 10 leesidegolfer


    Ya I like the course. Just the €1,500 entrance fee puts me off. But if I was certain I'd be playing there for next 10-15 years then it could be seen as a good investment. Just not sure

    For those interested I also found out Blarney are doing 6 month and 3 month membership which could be good option for anyone looking to try out being a member and see if it's for them. € 250 for 3 month, €480 for 6 month



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭big_drive


    Monkstown have membership available

    €5,000 entrance fee (can be split into two payments of €2,500 per year in years 1&2)

    Annual sub- €1,467 (this can be paid via direct debit)



  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Williewell


    I'm moving to Cork city in the next 12 months and this thread is very helpful. Is there any GC's you'd advise avoiding? I'd like to join somewhere with a half decent putting/chipping area. Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭big_drive


    Obviously the entrance fees are off putting, especially if you're not staying in Cork long term.

    Monkstown have opened a new academy as far as I know.

    Fota has great practice facilities but you'll pay a lot there

    Not sure regards muskerrys practice facilities, didn't play there in few years.

    Cobh and Blarney ok value money wise, but muskerry or Lee Valley might be worth the extra cost

    Which part of city is probably important, makes travel quicker to certain courses



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