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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,616 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    They're relying on alcoholics and retirees to get another 300,000, the country would be anarchy if they try to conscript many more (they also need people to work as well, this conflict will be a huge brain drain).



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,455 ✭✭✭jmreire


    I'm pretty sure briany, that Russia will be kept under a magnifying glass for years, generations even, yet to come. Such is the damage Putin has done to brand Russia. The ripples from Putins tenure will take a very long time to fade away.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,717 ✭✭✭✭briany


    They could try running as one big group towards Kyiv in order to strangle Zelensky. Think of the rolling news coverage.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,325 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    M1s are designed for sand?

    Here's an extract from the Materiel Need statement from the origination of the M1 program in 1972.

    Put simply, the M1 was designed to fight against the Soviets in Western Europe. Fighting against the Russians in Ukraine isn't all that removed from the concept.

    It is true that training a Western tank crew and maintenance crew to a Western level of capability is about a four-six month process... Which is fine, I suspect the Russians won't have won by then. Conducting depot level repair in Poland (and Bulgaria) is fair enough, the Ukrainian facilities were targetted by missile strikes.

    That said, if you look at those T-55s which Slovenia donated and compared them to the T-62s which the Russians have been dragging out of storage, the 55s are a better tank. They've been upgraded a lot more.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,660 ✭✭✭storker


    The Ardennes offensive was reversed because the huge Allied air force that had total air superiority was grounded for the first few days by bad weather, once the weather cleared, it was "clobberin' time." The Germans were also short of men, supplies - particularly petrol; the plan envisaged raiding American fuel dumps along the route of advance - and time because of Soviet advances in the east. None of these constraints apply to the Ukrainians, so while the attack will almost surely run out of steam at some point - unless the Russian army disintegrates completely first, which I wouldn't rule out completely, it's hard to see what the Russians are going to bounce back with.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,660 ✭✭✭storker


    If Russian doctrine in Ukraine is to avoid large numbers of casualties, it'll be the first time in Russian history that that's been the case. Generally the Russian response to a tactical problem has been to keep throwing men at it until it goes away.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Field east


    Re “—— calls for escalation ——“. It may not be as simple as that. Are you not aware , in Ireland, when the opposition might continually argue that gov should be spending much more than it is in some sectors/ should be paying higher amounts on something, etc . But when the opposition gets in it does not do what in was shouting about when it was in opposition and the reason is a or b or c. If on,y we had the money., etc, etc.

    so maybe those Ru saying Putin should escalate to nuclear are hoping that if he does that it will bring him down and his replacement might be a bit more pragmatic and start on the LONG ——————- —————————————————————————————————-, LONG , LONG ROAD to healing fences



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,006 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Russia would empty.

    It would be like one of those horror movies where only the old remain in the village.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,455 ✭✭✭jmreire


    If Putin decides to use those WMD , be it a nuclear strike or chemical weapons, he has been warned in no uncertain terms what the response will be and that is, he will not have any military worthy of the name. Navy and air force gone completely. as be any land based assets. His successor will want to be very stupid or crazy, to continue Putins mad vision, and invite further destruction on Russia. Plus, if it goes down to the wire like that, how would Russians themselves react? Revolt? or what?



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Don't you mean the 1.5 m that were never made... 🤔



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭Polar101


    600000-700000 people have already fled the country since the "partial" mobilisation was called.

    Russia doesn't have modern gear for all of their current troops, any mobilised reserves will have even worse gear. Maybe they'll be able to form new units by next spring, but they won't be well equipped.

    And Ukraine have reserves too,



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,410 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    If this is accurate, they are really closing in on Kherson city.

    Russians trying to regroup north MyLove

    All Eyes On Rafah



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,014 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    They could try to mobilise all 140 million souls in the Russian Federation, but it would make no difference. Once Ukraine restores its territorial integrity, as it is well on the way to doing, no other force in the World will be able to take it again, not with ummatchable western weapons and technology.

    It will become the hardest frontier on the planet, eclipsing the Korean peninsula and Ukraine's permanent reserve force will be in the millions, along with a rejuvenated Air Force as well as the very best in offensive and defensive missile technology.

    Russia cannot match any of this, short of the dreaded nuclear attack and if that happens, all they do is sign their own literal and political death warrants and end the Russian Federation as an entity, forever.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I was being facetious, I'm well aware that alcohol and extreme cold are a bad combination and other stuff like you shouldn't try to warm up someone suffereing from extreme hypothermia, such as by bringing them into a warm room.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Whirrrrr @&^%$....tk, tk, tk, clink - does not compute.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,014 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Maps posted by Sky News and sourced from Rybar a Russian military and tactical thinktank. It shows progress of the Ukrainian advance over just 4 hours

    Rybar analysis

    "In the northeast of the Kherson region, the RF Armed Forces regrouped... a decision was made to withdraw the contingent of the RF Armed Forces to a new line of defence.

    "However, the absence of any retaliatory actions and counteroffensives in the near future will create a threat of a further offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Berislav and Novaya Kakhovka, as well as Kherson from the Posad-Pokrovsky and Snigirevsky sectors. In addition, the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine over the coast of the Dnieper River is an immediate danger to the Russian contingent on the left bank of the Dnieper.

    "Ukrainian units, provided there is no opposition, will be able to carry out a landing operation using small boats, of which they have enough. And this is already a blow to the flank of the grouping of the RF Armed Forces in the Zaporozhye region and a direct exit to Melitopol."



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Sorry, but you have that around completely backward - Russia cares nothing for its tropps, Ukraine cares a great deal for the lives of it's citizens and military personell.

    ‘If we had more vehicles like this, we would save more lives – and the lives of our soldiers are the most important thing.’ https://newscinema.in/russia-displays-destroyed-australian-bushmaster-from-war-in-ukraine



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    @Manic Moran what were the actual Total of Abrams tanks lost to enemy fire during the Iraq war, not including the 11 Lost to friendly fire and destroyed to prevent capture.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,455 ✭✭✭jmreire


    I'm pretty sure from the logistics / servicing viewpoint, SOP is that all of these tanks and artillery pieces come with full servicing instructions and spare parts. And given what we are hearing about Russian logistics, this is not their strong point.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Don't be ridiculous, even Russia doesn't have enough vodka to enable such a scenario.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭jackboy


    So does this mean that the Russians may have to abandon Kherson without a fight?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Ah come on now, World War Z was not a documentary film about Russia's invasion!



  • Registered Users Posts: 983 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    From liveuamap.com

    "Explosions reported at Antonivsky bridge in Kherson"

    Are there any more bridges left? They might have to regroup to Kozatske or Nova Kakovka if that bridge still intact.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,455 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Well, one of the many reasons that Putin wants Ukraine is that it is apparently very wealthy in terms of mineral and gas / oil deposits, and not to mention its agricultural wealth. So, I guess that the Ukrainians will be more than happy to pay their way and I'd say that they will not forget their friends who supported them in their time of need. And of course, Russia will owe them (Ukraine) stratospherical amounts in reparation.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 23,275 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Things will get even more difficult for the Russians if Ukraine is able to take Nova Kakhovka and they will reach that city before Kherson, probably later this week at the current rate.

    That is where the northern entrance to the North Crimea Canal is, it supplies roughly 85% of Crimea's fresh water. The Ukranians had blocked the canal back in 2014 and the Russians reopened it earlier this year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,455 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Especially when the man who has his hands on the levers of power sees himself as being the Tsar of all the Russia's.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11



    "British Foreign Secretary warns Russia of the consequences of the nuclear option"

    an option?

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,717 ✭✭✭✭briany


    What are you talking about? Nuclear's always been an option, just a pants on head stupid one and non-viable.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭victor8600


    They might. I will give you another perspective on the fighting in Ukraine. Remember the recent Izium offensive? Not that many Russian forces were captured. The reason is that Russian generals are saving the core of the army, its contract soldiers, leaving the mobilized Donetsk/Lugansk soldiers as the rearguard to be surrounded. Why is this sudden tenderness from Russian generals towards the contract soldiers? The generals know that the war is effectively lost and they need to have as many trump cards as possible in the coming fight for supremacy in Russia when Putin is gone. The Russian army is being made a scapegoat for the mistakes of the so called intelligence community and the internal security apparatus who spent/stole billions of $$ in bribes to Ukrainians politicians and told Putin that Ukrainians would not fight. Already, Kadyrov and Prigozhin are blaming the Russian army for failures of the "special operation". And who are these two clowns? Formally, they are almost nobodies -- one is a leader of a small republic and another one is a friend of Putin. What these two have though are private armies, Kadyrov has it's own large Chechen guard and Prigozhin has the Vagner group. They are declaring themselves as players in the future power struggle in Russia. And the Russian army may seek to disengage from the war in Ukraine (which gives it no favours, only the blame) and join the fight for power in Russia.



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