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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,006 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Huh?

    According to that lad the UK will be obliterated, what do you expect us do?

    It's the usual Nuclear War porn doing the rounds at the minute.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,108 ✭✭✭threeball


    Musk would identify with Putin, his methods of working are similar. Enrich himself with other peoples money, come up with an idea then ask others to implement it. Blame them if its not going fast enough, blame them if it doesn't work, Fire with impunity, bully and silence, push an image of being a disruptor for good when really his only interest is power and wealth. Berate how the rest of the world works, if only everyone were like me. Rinse and repeat.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,458 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    That's an interesting view of Musk. He's a guy with what, 8 kids by 3 women? Something like that. He's clearly nuclear-class arrogant, and in it for the money.

    He's supposedly super intelligent, taught himself rocket design with all the associated physics and engineering training. So, he's no dummy. Putler's a psycopathic goon like Stalin and the various Soviet leaders. I don't get that vibe off of Musk, but I don't follow his antics close enough. Narcissistic yes, smart yes, psychopath - probably not.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Here's some text from an older post of mine that explains it.

    " I think it's a mixture of poor training, paranoia and a very different theatre of operations compared to Syria. Russia knows that there is now a pretty strong SAM threat in Ukranian airspace, with both Russian built high altitude units and low level, shoulder-launched systems. There is also a major Overwatch operation of Ukranian and, to some extent, Russian airspace by both NATO and US aircraft with Radar and Signals gathering systems.

    Russian pilots train less than 100 hrs a year. They are also not used to multi-aircraft, multi-objective operations. This is why, in Syria, you only saw one or two flying missions.

    Finally, Russia do not train in a Red Flag type of scenario ( I'll let you Google Red Flag for a reference..). NATO are much better at launching multiple platform, multi-role and multiple target missions in one foul sweep. Putin knows this. He knows that Nato have everything in place to hit Russia in one night, conventially, that would destroy the Russian military infrastructure. Hence the Nuclear threat.

    This is why there is a massive sub hunt going on at the moment. The West needs to account for every single sub at the moment, including the one that left the Northern base yesterday.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    You can be neutral and armed to the teeth, ready to kill any invader. QV Switzerland. Joining the EU wouldn't break neutrality.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,052 ✭✭✭Guffy


    It's an attempt to dehumanise them so that the deaths are more pallatable. 60k orcs dead is a lot easier for most people to digest than 60k men. It's standard in war, German's were called the huns and pictured as Gorillas for eg.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,006 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Those simpletons are getting their disinformation from Russian bot farms.

    Now they are either too stupid to realise they are been force fed lies, or they don't care because it makes them rich.



  • Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭Wes M.


    I've been a little drunk on the successes of the UA in the last few weeks, celebrating every win, and Russian loss, but I have to remember that there are many variables in this war - Ukrainian skill and grit, Russian mismanagement, continued Western support, and the emerging influence of the weather. I've never felt so optimistic as I do now, but I won't sleep well until the Russians finally sue for peace.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,948 ✭✭✭circadian



    Don't see Bill lambasting professionals and calling them peadophiles on social media because he came up with a stupid idea.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Problem is you are trying to defend open countryside. The front was probable over a thousand KM long.

    It's virtually impossible to harden that length of area in a few months. Even if you do you need artillery and air cover to protect against attack. As well you need tanks and APV's to have a mobile for e to counter attack any incursions.

    This is where Hitler failed in Normandy. Remember the Allies got ashore under tremendous fire, but Hitler failure to commit his tanks and reserves allowed the allies to secure bridgeheads.

    The Russians have no tanks or artillery and there airforce is unable to fly as they will be shot out of the sky

    Slava Ukrainii



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    Oh I know it wouldn't but Russia has always pushed it as if it would be a breach of neutrality.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    Well hopefully if they're sending people from prison's into the battle field, child abusers, rapist's etc are on the front line.

    The more vaporized the better.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    IMHO Russia's talk about NATO is a red herring in many ways. They well knew before all this that Ukraine was many years away from being accepted into NATO. Even after all this it still is. Russia and putin supporters are damned near 100% also anti EU. There's a reason for that. It's the EU Russia fears far more. Military threats are one thing, but neighbours who look like you and used to be close to you living better lives away from you in plain sight is the far bigger threat to an autocratic society.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,574 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Snigirevka will be left. Today this issue has already been resolved. But I still do not understand what front line we will hold. It is reasonable to start moving beyond the river to avoid losses.

    I find it really strange that Russia are abandoning this position. It's one of the most defendable parts of the front given its geography. I suppose we will see what happens today/tomorrow.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,067 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Heard that and thinking on his family today. Fair dues to him for going over and helping in the most practical way.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,484 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    There is a very small section of society that take digs at Bill Gates because they detest his support of vaccine programmes and philanthropy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,067 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    The Russian military have shown themselves to be a particularly brutal ill disciplined type of invader, wherever they've gone in recent campaigns. 'Invaders' are what they are but that is too civilised a word. Come up with a better name.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,904 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Mick Ryan was a bit tongue in cheek when he says:

    "And Ukraine’s tactical recon is probably complemented by strategic recon from other sources."




  • Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭Wes M.


    I grew up in the 80's and Reagan's "evil empire" line from a 1983 speech resonated throughout the decade, and there were Russian boogeymen throughout 80's cinema, I'm thinking of the 2nd and 3rd Rambo films. But you grow up and put away childish things, and take a more pragmatic and sensible view of the world. But Putin has set the clock back years now for his people with his imperialist fantasies and the army's brutal tactics.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭paul71


    This thread has largely been cleared of the bots and apologists now so perhaps the real discussion of what the future holds can take place. There will eventually be an end to this war and post war both Ukraine and Russia will need to find their place in the world. At this stage (indeed once Russia failed to take Kiev), it is obvious that Russia has lost the war in so far as their war objectives failed. It will probably drag on for a year perhaps 2 and eventually an increasingly well armed Ukrainian army will drive an increasingly poorly armed Russia out of most or all of Ukraine.

    Then what? Russia (Putin-led or post Putin led) will have to face some home truths. The army they had before February was a paper tiger and post war even that paper tiger will have been severely damaged or destroyed in Ukraine. A NATO threat to Russia was always a lie. NATO and or the EU never had any intention of invading Russia and the suggestion they would have was always an obviously stupid assertion. Why, because there was and never was any need to. The EU, America, Japan, Australia, Canada, South Korea (The West) was happy to simply trade with Russia.

    The ONLY threat to Russia has always been China, because it is another autocratic regime, and post Ukraine war the Russian army will not be capable of defending against a conventional attack from China. I do not for a moment believe China will attack Russia but I do believe they will meddle, invest, spy, undermine and generally stir trouble in Russia-in-Asia and eventually "little Green men" backed by China will do what the "little green men" backed by Russia did in Crimea.

    At that stage Russias destroyed army will not have the capability to resist and I believe their only option will be to look to NATO.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭Wes M.


    Paul, I thought this was an interesting read (links to the English language version of Novaya Gazeta)

    The post-Putin peace

    Let's see what a post-war peace negotiation may look like




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,660 ✭✭✭storker


    It's a good question and I was wondering the same. It seems that the handheld AA weapons are only part of the answer - they are effective at lower altitudes, but Russian aircraft are using those lower altitudes to avoid other air defences e.g. medium and high-altitude SAMS and the Ukrainian air force itself which has has been careful not to throw its aircraft into the battle willy-nilly. This article seems to explain it well, and also discusses how the west may have something to learn from Ukrainian methods.




  • Registered Users Posts: 12,410 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Lol


    All Eyes On Rafah



  • Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭Wes M.


    His tweets are priceless !!



  • Registered Users Posts: 878 ✭✭✭Addmagnet


    RIP

    "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." - John 15:13



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    One spouted sh*te on twitter setting himself up as some sort of global soothsayer, the other actually put his money where his mouth is. There's the difference.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    Building back better and all that.

    The Ukraine was always out on its own, I worked with Ukrainians back in the 90's nice people they were neither European or Russian a bit like the Irish long ago going from pillar to post, wars not good. But as I read somewhere metaphorically sometimes heaven and hell need to clash now and again to throw up the dust and when it settles thing's can only get better.

    Those Ukrainians are hard men, they don't mind getting stuck into anything they're doing. They'll deserve to be modernized and become a nation standing out on the borders of east and west. They're stuck between a rock and a hard place.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11



    Borrell: We provide military aid to Ukraine and are taking diplomatic steps to support it in Russia's war against it

    the Uruk-hai are on the back foot

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



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