Landlord moving back into property. Length of notice required for tenant

180 days, from the official Notice of Termination being received

And there's no guarantees the tenant will move out by the end of the notice period so I'd warn against counting any chickens about moving back in!

and people wonder why there are fewer and fewer rentals available in Ireland......

Anyway, just to note for OP. The format of your eviction notice must be in the format proscribed by the RTB, and the notice of eviction must be lodged with and notified to the RTB on exactly the same date that the notice is served to the tenant. Any mistake, and the eviction notice could be deemed invalid, and you could go back to square 1.

The government, the opposition parties, the media, the "Homeless charities" have all pushed to make evictions more and more difficult. This helps out in the short term, because it pushes the problems of homelessness on to private landlords, and saves the local councils from dealing with it. Long term, it just means less landlords and less rentals which makes the whole thing worse - not better. Back in the day, a property rental was just a contract between 2 adults who agreed on the terms and conditions and got on with life. Now, its become one of the most highly regulated industries in the country. OP is a landlord who has rented out his property in the past, and after going through the legal hoops to get an eviction, will never rent it out again. That also seems mad.....

Balance is important.

Over the last number of years there have been lots of changes to Residential Letting Legislation. The following list just covers what amendments have been made to main 2004 Act that I can find:

• Residential Tenancies (Amendment) Act 2009 (2/2009)

• Housing (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 2009 (22/2009)

• Residential Tenancies (Amendment) Act 2015 (42/2015)

• Planning and Development (Housing) and Residential Tenancies Act 2016 (17/2016)

• Residential Tenancies (Amendment) Act 2019 (14/2019)

• Local Government Rates and other Matters Act 2019 (24/2019)

• Residential Tenancies and Valuation Act 2020 (7/2020)

• Residential Tenancies Act 2020 (17/2020)

• Planning and Development, and Residential Tenancies, Act 2020 (27/2020)

• Residential Tenancies Act 2021 (5/2021)

• Residential Tenancies (No. 2) Act 2021 (17/2021)

• Residential Tenancies (Amendment) Act 2021 (39/2021)

• Regulation of Providers of Building Works and Miscellaneous Provisions Act 2022 (15/2022)

In the interests of balance, I would like anyone to provide just 1 item in this lot that is in favour of Landlords. The truth is there is no balance, and there are no calls for balance. Its just more and more pro-tenant rules.

Also on the subject of balance. Indefinite tenancies are only ever discussed in terms of the Landlords commitment to the arrangement. What about balance in terms of the tenants commitment. Nobody suggesting a financial penalty on a tenant that breaks a long term commitment. It seems they should be free to walk away from their home at a whim, but not so lax a commitment from the LL.

Lookit, you always hear the horror stories here and very rarely the (much more common, I suspect) good ones. If your sister's tenant has been hassle-free thus far then there's no reason to assume they're suddenly going to turn into an overholding dickhead just because she wants the house back. I rented the same house for 9 years, it went on the market earlier this year. I was absolutely devastated but I packed up and left on the agreed date because I'm not a twat and neither are the vast, vast majority of people.

The 180 days' notice may seem excessive to your sister but as others have said, it's there to give the tenant a realistic (well, realistic prior to the current market) chance of finding somewhere else. As it happened, I couldn't and am back living with my folks. It became clear to me pretty immediately that I was really going to struggle to find somewhere else but did it cross my mind for a second to overhold? No, because I'm a reasonable person and chances are your sister's tenant is too. No need to assume the worst just yet.

The shocking thing is that when the tenants don't move out there's nothing you can do.

My tenants are overholding since May. RTB take 21 days to respond to emails. They have only just now acknowledged that they are starting to look at my dispute.

Landlords have no rights.

You are the perfect example of a “have a go” landlord with whom I’m delighted are leaving the rental market.

How the fcuk does a Landlord not know the notice period on properties?

Leave the rental market to the professional investment companies.

You're being disingenuous.

Technically it's your siblings property but not their "home" as they don't live there, and haven't for a long time.

It's is however the tenants "home" and they do live there and have for a long time.

That's the way the legislation looks at it. That's all that matters.

We've had housing crisis for a long time so you just can't plead ignorance of both the crisis and the legislation, when planning where you are going to work and thus live.

You can't agree to a long term rental then want short term rental rules on a whim.

What's appalling and scary is how oblivious you are to all this.

What is more appalling is to have someone who makes decisions related to a (presumably valuable) asset, yet apparently doesn't understand the basics of what they are getting into.

I suppose the difference in your examples is “da gubbermnint” equally don’t tell that painter or brick layer that by law they have to stay painting, or building that wall, every day without their wages for anything that could be between 6 - 12 months and tough s**t, suck it up.

There is a lease in place. This lease effectively sells some of your sibling's rights for a thing called money. The people who have paid that money now have things called rights of their own which they have paid for.

Winter eviction ban those rented 3 bed semi are easy pickings for the guburment to part solve housing crisis

Glad I grabbed a place back early in the year better vacant, those unwanted LLs are stuck now.

And nobody tells you you have to continue renting to other people either.

If the wall is painted, you can't go and strip the paint off it. If you're a subcontractor and you haven't been paid for that freezer in that kitchen you fitted, then you can't go in a reef it back out no matter how much you want to. If you've given possession of your property to a tenant who stops paying, you can at least get it back eventually. But you made the decision to hand it over. That was your bad judgment.

Complete nonsense from you as usual.

Tenants can't really be evicted in less than 2 years, despite all legal procedures being follwed, and you know this.

Just more of your trolling.

Normal to decide the rules before the game not in the middle of it.

Becase the legislation changes every few months. Can you imagine dealing with an organisation who gets backt to you 2-3 weeks after you send them an email. Can you imagine an organisation that did some sort of a software upgrade last Autumn and after it you could not log into your account, Can you imagine an organisation where you changed your email address and it virtually impossible to register you accounts.

By the way the same tenants are cribbing and crying about the profession investment companies.

No they did not. However if they did not there would have been one less house rented for the last few years, one more homeless family. Nobody should consider renting any property that they may need back in the short term. However there are people who rented 1-2+ years ago that were going abroad short term who now arefinding it very hard to get there property back.

Problem for a homeowner is if the paperwork is any way incorrect the tenant can wait for the end of the notice period and object and the clock starts ticking again. Even if the paperwork is correct they can appeal on spurious grounds and the house owner has to go througt the appeals process. If a determination order is issued to a tenant the RTB will enforce it, if it to a LL they can f@@k off anf try to enforce it themselves.

People made decisions maybe before COVID and got trapped abroad and government has changed legislation so much that tit is not a legal minefield they finf themselves in.

Yet we wonder why we have a rental crisis. there is 60-70K vacant houses around the country. If half were rented it would definately impact on the rental problems. However most of these are houses that people may want back in the short term. Recently advised a friend not to rent his mother house. She had moved in with them and was wanted to rent it to help them pay for the granny flat they build. My advise was sell it but do not rent it. I gave the similar advice to a young couple who were going travelling for a year and thinking of renting out there apartment three months ago.

I this it's more like a couple of hundred thousand empty houses. I don't think this includes currently unused and underused religious buildings such as monasteries, convents, churches and the like. A great many towns around the country have properties of this sort in farily good nick that could be used as accommodation with a small financial input. It's not as if the various religious orders don't owe the state vast sums in unpaid compensation for abuse etc.

And it was a 4yr tenancy now 6yrs. Without a time machine is not possible to respond to goal posts that change that fast.

Again Nonsense

Smaller Landlords charge market price like everyone else.

Have a go and accidental landlording should be banned in this country.