Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

Wtf goes on at our training sessions

Many articles after the Rangers game called it, 4-4-2, 4-5-1, 4-2-3-1, what was it, it is what you want it to be I guess. In reality it does put 5 bodies in midfield area, but 3 are for breaking out, occupying space, being an offensive nuance . What ever it was it's the way to go against Arsenal, pack the midfield area, 2 sitters, 3 ahead, with Nunez up front

Honestly i don't see us doing it against Arsenal

The 2 Cm will have to much work to do helping out the full backs , Ranger didn't control the ball long enough to do that Arsenal will for good spells, It'll work when we are the far superior team in possession or the opposite attacks are central ,

Secondly Salah ends up playing very deep , If you watch Arsenal left back Zincencho likes to come inside and play as an inverted full back like he did at City, He finds himself almost as a left sided 6 , Arsenal have played with him there all season & a lot of there attacking patterns are based off him in that position , Its why Whyte plays RB because he actually tucks in & they end up with 3 CB's

Now if we get Salah to cheat & start very high on right it throws Arsenal patterns off, He is to quick for Zinchenko to just leave so he has to revert to a proper LB position or Gabriel will have to come right across to Mo leaving space around Saliba ,

IF they make Gabriel cover which i think they will i want Jota to play over Diaz , as he will stay high & get himself between Whyte & Saliba , Then for our 9 we can go Bobby to drop or Nunez to go in behind ,

The fact Arsenal are doing so well may play into our hands as they may just continue to play as they have been with a very very high line which will suit us ,

All that is true but when we are on form its still very very hard to beat us , How many defeats last season 3 in all comps ? ?

If we loser the weekend Arsenal will finish above us , 14 points is basically 5 wins , i know we have a game in hand so 4 but it'll be very very hard to catch them ,

Check Air bnb,

Try Z- hotel or Easy hotel but very basic but do the job & are cheap and very central but that depends on your young lads age, there not places where you'd want to be spending much down time in the rooms .

Outside of that your looking at your normal hotels for 250 or more at this stage on a Saturday night

I actually think we are more solid with 2-3-1, or call it 5-1 , forget the names of the people involved, bottom line they fill spaces and are good on the ball when we get it, we'd concede less, and score less 1-0 to the Pool

I thought we were going to try and be unpredictable? That’s all too predictable, unfortunately

We may be but i don't think we can say we "are " it was one game at home against Rangers they are Championship level ,

I don't think we can judge it fairly either way on that one game

I know it sounds crazy this early in the season but lose tomorrow and top 4 is looking pretty unlikely for me. It would mean city and arsenal are basically both uncatchable. Leaving two spots with spurs Chelsea and United all in far better positions than us.

How has it come to running city so close last season, 2 games away from a quadruple to this season maybe not qualifying for Europe.

Oh jesus, talk about bad luck

Better off cancelling it at this stage

Liverpool's transfer strategy has been lauded over the last 6 or so years, but the last few years have actually been bad, in a way.

2 senior players signed in the last 2 summer windows is fairly coming back to bite them now. Big changes needed in midfield and the club are already one step behind.

Welcome to Liverpool Arthur...

Sit down there over beside Naby...

Julian Wards first window will go down as one of the worst in history & not all his fault

Have to feel for the player

Surely we can't cancel the loan ? What happens with his rehab then, surely the club will at least help the lad get over a bad injury before waving good bye ,

Alternatively, summer signings over the last 4 summers;

19/20: 1 reserve keeper, 2 teenagers

20/21: Thiago, Jota, Tsimikas

21/22: Konate

22/23: Nunez, 2 teenagers

That's not enough senior players being signed. 1 midfielder signed in 4 years, who, while being great was also 29. It has left the midfield in a horrible position right now.

Of course Tchouameni would have changed things, but it didn't happen. We are on course to lose 3 midfielders this summer, how many do you envisage coming in? If Bellingham comes in, it will be Bellingham only and nobody else. That means nobody replacing Bobby either.

Current midfield for next season is:

Fabinho (29)

Hendo (33)

Thiago (32) (last year of contract iirc)

Elliott (20)

Jones (22)

The lack of midfielders signed is getting shown up now. 1 was needed, at least, this summer and it didn't happen. That was also in addition to needing 1 or 2 more next summer which is now increased. Curtis Jones can't be relied on for fitness. Hendo Fabinho Thiago are all pushing on.

There should be more summers like 20/21 in terms of squad refresh. Quality additions in different areas. Not 1 player in 1 area each summer.

Mad how decision can snowball and cause so many further problems down the line.

Been thinking about this a bit lately and it's kind of like the club, under Klopp, outgrew the transfer policy of FSG. Don't get me wrong, I think the transfer policy had been great.

Buying players about to explode to the next level, ready to progress in their careers (Allison, VVD, Fabinho, Salah, Mane). Or buying players that could/would play to a high level while being undervalued in the transfer market (Matip, Robbo, Gini etc).

When the club then started competing at the top table for the PL & CL regularly, the transfer policy had to change to that of a superclub but that's where the problems have started. They weirdly regressed in transfer strategy instead of maintaining or progressing. The senior signings are not as plentiful. The exploiting value in senior players doesn't seem to be happening now. Kids and loans are very prominent now. Signing kids is sound, but they have to be in addition to the top level signings when you are a superclub.

Konate's release clause was met, Diaz transfer fee was a fair chunk, maybe even a small bit above market value, but I'm ok with that and Nunez was very high. While these are players ready to step up, they are not really plentiful. They are the only senior players across the last 4 windows.

The club wouldn't sign any of Robbo, Matip, Gini now. They definitely wouldn't sign a Shaqiri now. These were important in the squad building process.

Instead, the club is trying to be too smart and 'do enough' without acting or doing enough. Milner is still retaining a regular starting position, (remember how quickly Lucas & Joe Allen were shipped out when surplus to requirements) Nat Phillips started in the league this season (read Sakho, Skrtel).

The club isn't acting like a superclub in the transfer market. A couple of small tweaks changes it completely and that's the frustrating bit. Tchouameni in the summer and all of a sudden it's a brilliant window and the midfield is refreshed and so is the squad mentality refreshed. Energised.

Look at Arsenal if they had 3 injuries they would be in trouble, We had what 12 at the same time at one stage already this season ,

I'm looking forward to the game. For the first time in a long time (am I correct?), Arsenal have zero fear playing Liverpool.

I think Arsenal will win.

I think it's time for Nunez to be starting games. He's itching to play and doesn't seem short of confidence whatsoever (regardless of what the papers say).

Will be interesting to see how the team is set up.