71 year old living in car on the 🔑

Asdfgh2020 · 06-10-2022 10:23pm #1

Anyone know who this guy is and what his ‘real story’ is?…..anytime I’ve transversed the quay lately I’ve seen this small car park just opposite fieldmaster…..cylinder of gas plus ring etc and signs/banners claiming the government put him out of his house……??

Crusty Blaa · 06-10-2022 10:38pm

I've heard he is from Cavan, sold his home and has been living in hotels in Waterford but ran out of cash. Doesn't qualify for social housing in this jurisdiction but does in Cavan however refuses to live there. I don't really have much sympathy for him if that is the correct story.

Asdfgh2020 · 07-10-2022 7:02am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119711073#Comment_119711073

Interesting…..might stop and have a chat with him some day…….sounds like he could have ‘mental’ issues…..I wonder does he pay for his parking…..he’ll have accumulated some amount of parking tickets if not

Wanderer78 · 07-10-2022 2:18pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119711073#Comment_119711073

why bloody not, for whatever reasons he cant/wont return to cavan, so why not house him here, whats the difference?? i know of a chap that was refused housing here to under the same conditions, wasnt from here, but was homeless, had a diagnosed psychological disorder, was registered with a related supports organization here, but the system said no! thats just disturbing!

theres clearly psychological issues going on here to, wtf are we doing just effectively telling these folks ta fcuk off, thats just a disturbing society!

Crusty Blaa · 07-10-2022 4:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119713158#Comment_119713158

If we start dishing out housing to every Tom, Dick & Harry from outside the county, where does it leave people from Waterford that need a house? Will they have to go apply for housing in Cavan? The local social housing list is long enough as it is. I'm sorry if I'm being blunt here but I don't think it's as simple as giving a house to whoever wants it, where they want it.

BBM77 · 07-10-2022 4:59pm

Justifiably or not, he may well have a beef with the council. Still gives him no right to take over a city centre parking space and to stick ugly looking signs up on a main street. If it is true that he is from Cavan expecting a council house or whatever he is looking for in Waterford, makes it even more unreasonable to me. Makes the area look bad and does businesses and residences in the area no good.

Asdfgh2020 · 07-10-2022 6:18pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119714007#Comment_119714007

Passed today and no sign of the ‘Cavan man’…..sign on pole outlining his message and front windows of car covered. Looked like a pillow or two in back seat…! Didn’t notice a parking ticket on it so maybe the council will ‘lift’ the car due to non Payment of fines etc….being from Cavan though one would expect nothing better…🤣🤣

HeidiHeidi · 07-10-2022 6:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119714369#Comment_119714369

Stay classy.

friendlyfun · 09-10-2022 6:47am

Man is boards filled with "I'm alright jack" type arseholes.

carfinder · 09-10-2022 7:25am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119719896#Comment_119719896

Man is Board's filled with "rude scrounger apologist" types 😂

friendlyfun · 09-10-2022 7:41am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119719954#Comment_119719954

Keep punching down to the lowest in society! stay classy.

Asdfgh2020 · 09-10-2022 8:14am

Wonder how long more this / his protest will continue for….? Being 71 I assume he can ‘draw’ his pension locally and doesn’t need to present himself to a Cavan post office….?

carfinder · 09-10-2022 8:21am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119719985#Comment_119719985

Stay classy me hole... plenty of chancers trying to game the system and supported by gullible useful idiots

juno10353 · 09-10-2022 12:49pm

A 71 year old man visably living in unsuitable situation and winter looming, I would sincerely hope that local agencies are linking with him and there will be a good outcome.

09-10-2022 12:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119713847#Comment_119713847

As a citizen of this country, he is entitled to apply for social housing in any county he wishes to live in. He is not just a citizen of Cavan.

magicbastarder · 09-10-2022 12:56pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119713847#Comment_119713847

if they start dishing out houses to cavan people in waterford, where does it leave people from waterford who need a house?

if they start dishing out houses to baileborough people in ballyjamesduff, where does it leave people from ballyjamesduff who need a house?

if they start dishing out houses to people from the ashford estate, in the woodlands estate, where does that leave people from the woodlands estate who need a house?

give me patience.

Mrs OBumble · 09-10-2022 1:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119720896#Comment_119720896

He can apply, but he will be refused, unless he most recently worked in Waterford. He will be referred to the place where he most recently worked or lived.

Supporting disturbed people to do geographicals is simply a waste of resources, and no favour to the people in the long term.

Crusty Blaa · 09-10-2022 1:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119720896#Comment_119720896

That's not the way the social housing system works in Ireland...

Just on a sidenote regarding this gentleman, there were a number of people from Cavan including his former neighbours who commented on a recent News & Star story about him indicating that not all is at it seems with him and he is in fact a wealthy man.

09-10-2022 1:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119720978#Comment_119720978

I don't think you know how the social housing system works in Ireland.

Maybe we should throw all that non-Dublin people off the Dublin housing lists and send them back to apply in their own counties only.

I presume you're against immigrants being housed in Waterford as well, if Waterford housing should only be for Waterford people?

Mrs OBumble · 09-10-2022 1:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119721081#Comment_119721081

If a person has most-recently worked in Dublin, or is working there now, they will be allowed to register there. Otherwise, yes, they will be referred back to their own county to register. That is how social housing works.

09-10-2022 2:02pm

Define "your own county"?

Just had a, quick look at the housing application form and nowhere does it state "you must already be living or working in xxxxx" to qualify.

Crusty Blaa · 09-10-2022 4:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119721081#Comment_119721081

You presumed wrong and that's a completely different area but nice attempt at trying to spin it off point..

I'd recommend reading up on social housing eligibility criteria.

Mrs OBumble · 09-10-2022 6:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119721143#Comment_119721143

I don't need to.

It's all defined already in https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2011/si/84/made/en/print

Sections 5 and 6.

Though councils do have an option to "conduct a social housing assessment in respect of that household on receipt of an application" in most places,there is operational policy that the results of the assessment will be to refer people back to where they have local connections.

This is to reduce waste of mental health services: the service in one place learns how to work with a person, they don't being asked to take responsibility for the consequences of their actions, so they feck off off elsewhere (known in some places as "doing a geographical").

Wanderer2010 · 09-10-2022 6:33pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119720886#Comment_119720886

Lady Lane has an independent living facility and its only 65 or 75 a week. Its a wonder he hasnt been offered that or a similar facility. There may well be more to this story.

09-10-2022 7:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119722343#Comment_119722343

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119721686#Comment_119721686

How is it different? So are you now saying you're okay with immigrants being housed in Waterford, just not Irish people from other counties? Which is it?

I am already familiar with social housing eligibility criteria. There is no condition that says someone must already be living and working in a county to apply for social housing there.

But grand so, next time a thread comes up on social housing and its being argued that all social housing needs to be moved outside of Dublin to rural areas, I'll quote the pair of you as references that it's not possible to qualify for social housing outside your "own county". (Unless you're an immigrant).

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Mrs OBumble · 09-10-2022 9:00pm

Just read legislation that I linked to. It's really not that difficult, and the rules are very clear.

09-10-2022 9:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119723300#Comment_119723300

I don't need too. I know people living and working in Dublin who have been accepted onto housing lists for Kildare, and others for Meath.

I know others who have transferred from Dublin lists to councils in other counties.

Still waiting on the definition of what is "own county".

Mrs OBumble · 09-10-2022 10:36pm

The definition is very clearly stated in the legislation that I linked to. It also explains how those other scenarios you list can come about.

I'm not gonna copy and paste it for you.

jimbev · 09-10-2022 10:46pm

I think we're missing the bit where it said

"Sold his home "

juno10353 · 09-10-2022 10:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119723740#Comment_119723740

We do not know the background..... gambling debts for example. Who knows. For whatever reason, this elderly man is facing into winter living in a car park. Whatever the housing regulations, it would be good to know that some one or some organisation is linking in with him and checking that his health and mental health are okay. Let him not become another statistic.

Asdfgh2020 · 10-10-2022 6:15am

He is there most days and seems very approachable so maybe those above (including myself here) who are most curious about his situation could drop by and have a conversation with him and decide / make ultimate judgement then….? From what’s reported to date above though suggests that there is obviously a lot ‘more to the story’……why did he sell his house in Cavan (gambling debts, separation/divorce etc etc) why did he choose waterford to ‘camp’ in…..is there a perceived leniency about the housing list down here, does he have family/connection to the area……etc etc…..and most importantly is he paying for his parking….?

nomoedoe · 10-10-2022 10:54am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119724252#Comment_119724252

He's parked in a disabled spot well he was anytime I passed him

Asdfgh2020 · 10-10-2022 10:59am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119724979#Comment_119724979

He will get himself some hefty fines then……unless he has the ‘blue badge’……however he doesn’t look that disabled as he is out cooking on his gas ring etc etc….although I suppose like anything getting a blue badge for disabled parking may not be that difficult. E

CreadanLady · 10-10-2022 11:05am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119714007#Comment_119714007

Possibly a tactic to make as much trouble and look unsightly as possible in the hope of making the place look so bad that local businesses will make him a cash offer to pack up and fúck off.

cezanne · 10-10-2022 11:43am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119720907#Comment_119720907

In the interest of being fair - Dont forget dishing out housing to Ukranians !! Answer that one that also imposes on citizens of every county in our country , but that OK????? !

Crusty Blaa · 10-10-2022 1:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119722750#Comment_119722750

What are you rambling on about?! It's not what I'm "okay" or "not okay" with. It's what the rules state;

To qualify for social housing in a certain area, the person must have been living or working in the area prior to applying (foreign nationals included) or have local connections in the county. This gentleman doesn't meet any of the above criteria so therefore doesn't qualify for housing in Waterford based on the t&cs. As someone else mentioned he is entitled to apply but will likely be referred back to his local authority in Cavan.

Asdfgh2020 · 10-10-2022 9:57pm

Will be interesting to see how long this / his protest will continue for given the temps are dropping etc……where does he do his showering and shaving etc and what about his clothes washing……socks / jocks etc….😀

Flow Motion · 12-10-2022 11:04am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119714007#Comment_119714007

My, my, my... that's one of the most vile and entitled comments I have ever read on this site. I have a picture in my mind of what kind of person you are in my mind and I know it accurately reflects reality. Your toxic attitude "makes this area look bad". I take it you are just stirring the pot in a quasi troll way because if you really harbour such opinions and attitudes than society is much poorer with your existence on this planet not to mention this town. Hope it all stays fine for you buddy. Life's a journey and nobody escapes hardship, pain, grief or bad fortune. Absolutely nobody. So reflect on that when karma comes calling. The only "ugly signs" I can see is your vapid, soulless, insular rhetoric. Hiding behind some anonymous letters and words too afraid to reveal yourself to the real world. The reality of the old man's situation is unknown but he does have a right to protest. He has a right to be heard. From what I have seen lots of people stop and have a chat with him. Let's hope no of us end up in a situation where we end up living in our cars. Friends and family are notoriously fickle. Ever heard of the housing crisis? Or are you too busy earning money?

12-10-2022 12:23pm

I'm curious as to the background history of this man.

What were the circumstances that led him to becoming homeless & bringing him

to the situation where he now finds himself in & if he is indeed from Cavan, why isn't

he looking for accommodation in Cavan? Surely he has friends / family in Cavan?

I personally have little time for people like this who put out the idea that they

are the victim here & expect all & sundry to rally to their cause.

There is history here but it's being hidden!

BBM77 · 12-10-2022 1:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119733725#Comment_119733725

First of all, forum charter “We can't stress this enough, please remember to attack the post, not the poster.”

Secondly, I’m sure you have a picture in your mind of what kind of person I am but it is sod all to do with reality. You took one five-line post and filled in the rest based on your own prejudices. Are you so unbelievably arrogant to think you can define what kind of person I am from one five-line post?

Thirdly, you talk about “he does have a right to protest” then attack my right to free speech and existence with “society is much poorer with your existence on this planet not to mention this town”. So in your mind anybody who does not follow your opinion makes society poorer!

You would want to have a good hard look at your own attitudes pal.

GandhiwasfromBallyfermot · 12-10-2022 5:41pm

There is 100% more to this story than what we've heard. He's been there a few months at this stage and still nobody knows for sure what his background is, I think its right to be a bit suspicious of it. Definitely sad that there's a man living in his car on the quay but I'd like to think at this stage he's been offered emergency accommodation, but probably turned it down to make his point.

juno10353 · 12-10-2022 6:46pm

So many people making assumptions about this man with no facts. Is it our business to know his personal business? We should all be checking and ensuring this man is linked into the services which are there to help him...... ie health boards, churches, homeless organisations, hostels, police, mental health services etc. Most above have outreach workers who, if they know about him, will link in with him and give him assistance.

Can people in the area ring the services, not complain about the man, but ensure the relevant people know he needs assistance

tobey · 12-10-2022 8:31pm

Hes not sleeping there. I live in the city center and walk 5 nights out of 7 around town in the evaning and hes very rearly there

Flow Motion · 13-10-2022 11:08am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119734297#Comment_119734297

"Magic mirror on the wall, who's the fairest one of all?". And who uses the word "pal" anymore?? 🤣 Now, go hide behind the facade or "charter" and forget about the out of town auld fella sleeping in his car. I know what you are. Anyone who read your post knows what you are. There's an appropriate word for you. Im thinking of it right now. Short word. I think you know it. Dosen't take a lot to arrive at that conclusion. I've said my piece and will say no more.

BBM77 · 13-10-2022 11:53am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119738324#Comment_119738324

You know what anybody who read the post is thinking now also! Do you have any idea how nuts you sound? Have a simple piece of advice for you. In your head – reality, they are not the same.

PS. You have said nothing expect personal insults pointed to me which is pretty pathetic. The reason you are not going to say anymore is you don’t understand the nuances of what you are writing.

Micky Bluenips · 13-10-2022 12:38pm

After reading all the comments and basically nobody know his story but everyone making up their own stories. The modern way really I suppose.

nomoedoe · 13-10-2022 2:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119736309#Comment_119736309

Yeah he’s not sleeping there ive passed many nights and never seen him in the car, he does his protest during the day and heads of somewhere to sleep at night is the impression i get.