Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

The silly thing about all this is that a lot of it is easily fixed.

Everything stems from midfield. Everything.

If we invest in midfield as soon as possible, this season is salvageable. It doesn't mean forgiveness for the stupidity of not doing anything in the summer, but they can still put things somewhat right.

Klopp was spot on.

Better team first half with silly moments that cost us.

Wretched in the 2nd half and the penalty was very soft.

I thought Jurgen looked unwell today very thin & a bit frazzled in his answers,

We're still in every competition going, with less than 25% of the season played and folk are pessimistic about 4th? There's a long way to go yet. Anything is possible. They just need to remember how to defend. Don't concede and we'll win more than we'll lose given our forwards and the chances they get.

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Gabriel barely speaks a word of English, and even I struggle with Henderson's accent, so how the hell would he even understand what Henderson said, Henderson doesn't look bothered in video, he hasn't a clue Gabriel is calling him a racist to the ref. SOmething was misheard, but of course the FA will punish Henderson, as you have to make an example, and Gabriel will insist he heard something.

Yesterday summed up what many of us complained about i and the summer & we where laughed at & and called moaners for saying it

We stock piled midfielders that aren't good enough or aren't available enough so much so the manger now ops to play just two,

Then we play 4 attacker &, seeing as we let 38 goals go in the summer in Mane, Origi, & Taki & only brought in Nunez we ended up bringing on two midfielders when chasing the game for forwards as we simply had none left to bring on

Then at RB no real competition was bought for Trent so 5 seasons on he's still being replaced with a CB

Remember it's just October

The club, Klopp & the tranfer committee have failed, Its bizarre when idiots like us seen it coming miles away (Ramsey & Carvalho are kids not competition for a team at our level)

A huge issues is how do you get out of it when you have no options to change things

Right now we only has 3 midfielders he can rely & he can't play them all for 90 minutes because that means they can't play the next game,

We where laughed at for slaughtering Elliot all of a sudden he is no where near the starting line up because what we where saying was correct ,

In the attacking sense we let 3 full internationals go in the summer & replaced them with 1 its utter madness,

Klopp done amaizng to get us in such a brilliant position as a club & recruitment has completely undone it ,

I was all for Jota starting left wing before the game but i must admit we lost Diaz's ability to carry the ball in the second half,

He was the one picking up the ball beating a player or just keeping the all to get attacks going ,without the 3 midfielders he was vital ,

I think with him missing now Klopp will be forced back to 3 midfielders just to keep the ball ,

What looked like a friendly chat at full time between the Brazilians now in hindsight looks like a inquest into what happened with Henderson

Little else for doing I'd imagine.

Yes I can read thanks very much. You are jumping to conclusions as always

You have no idea what is going on why are you saying anything about what it looks like?

You said i made something up , which i didn't

All i said was in hindsight it looks like they could be talking the Henderson incident ,

You just want to jump down someone throat for no apparent reason

Lets move on

As you rightly point out its falling apart because the foundations are gone ( midfield)

Remember Roma at home champions league Semi final we battered them & De Rossi said 3 dogs in midfield made it impossible,

Now the only 3 that can be relied on in there have no legs, Fab,Thagio & Henderson , We need our legs back ,

Full backs haven't even had the planform to get on the ball in forward area's this season,

Loyalty to players has killed us

Phillips, Gomez, Milner, Ox , Naby , Jones, Arthur, Elliot all in my opinion could all be replaced & not missed a all ,

It may sound like a contradiction but id keep Firmino if he's willing to be back up

There most definitely is a FA investigation into the incident with Henderson and Gabriel, Michael Oliver went over to speak to rival managers Mikel Arteta and Jurgen Klopp following the incident, nothing made up about it, and the Brazilian players were definitely having a debate, rather than a chat.

But like I said I barely understand Henderson most of the time, how is Gabriel who doesn't speak English suppose to. I hope it's sorted without Henderson getting labelled by the FA, John Terry was guilty as sin over racial abuse he aimed at Anton Ferdinand, clear as day. all on tape, no confusion there. This incident with Henderson is Gabriel hearing something and reacting, while Henderson is wondering what the fuss is about, clueless as to what is going on.

i'm weirdly at peace with where we're at.

the club has done this to itself. they had a top 3 manager of his generation, and they thought he would keep producing miracles with a squad that was being rung of all of it's energy over the last 5 years, trying to keep up with the wall of money in Manchester.

we got away with it in Covid season by getting into the top 4.

will we get away with it this time?

if we don't, then we'll be where we deserve. it's quite obvious that the Premier League is awash with money. clubs are spending like it's going out of fashion. Arsenal will have you believe they're an underdog story, but they have spent squillions on that squad to overhaul it into a talented, and the youngest, team in the EPL. Nottingham Forest are spending. Utd continued to spend. City spent hundreds of millions on Haaland through all the fees. Chelsea spent ridiculously.

we essentially relied on Klopp to continue to get the most out of slowly ageing players who spent all they had on last season's run.

we're getting what we deserve.

@Infoseeker1975 We are at a crossroads now and it will take investment to get us back into contention, I don't see that happening as FSG have always stated that only profit goes into the team so it is mainly a sell to buy approach

Just wondering about this point. Are Liverpool even investing all their profit into the team? They seem to spend very little. Klopp has only spent about £480m*, £60m a year, and that’s not even taking sales into consideration

*not sure if this figure is accurate. Taken from transfermarkt but I had a look at Arteta’s too and that’s definitely way off