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    #6782
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Here’s who had what this year. They divide them as evenly as you can divide an odd number of matches (so obviously one side got one extra). Presumably it evens up over the course of the contract.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2022/0119/1274600-rte-and-virgin-media-confirm-six-nations-coverage/



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    #6783
    RoTelly
    Registered Users Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/saorview-issues-led-virgin-to-battle-rte-42011891.html


    You'd have to wonder why the Minister and her Civil Servant even allowed VMTV to argue about VMTV FOUR's position on Soarview.

    1. It was always going to be either Ch 7 or 8
    2. If TG4 set up any new channel on the service surely it would get preferential treatment on Soarview in other words it might get position 5 or 6
    3. If Screen Ireland ever set up their channel it would also have to get preferential treatment in other words it might get position 5 or 6
    4. There are only 6 other general entertainment channels on Soarview of which 3 were Virgin Media Channel

    Looking at Freeview entertaintainment channels don't divide up the movie channel or the +1 from entertainment, they split HD (Not required for Saorview), Children's, News, adult and radio

    What happens if VMTV FOUR +1 was to appear 17 is taken!

    In this case 2rn could have their line up like so : -

    1. RTÉ ONE
    2. RTÉ TWO
    3. VMTV one
    4. TG4
    5. RTÉ ONE +1
    6. VMTV TWO
    7. RTÉ 2 +1
    8. VMTV THREE
    9. Screen Ireland (reserved)
    10. TG4 +1 (reserved)
    11. VMTV FOUR








    20. RTÉjr
    21. Cula 4 (reserved)








    30. RTÉ NEWS
    31. OTV
    32. SKY NEWS



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    #6784
    Delta2113
    Registered Users Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭Delta2113


    I'm not a fan off this EPG positioning fascination. If somebody launches a really good channel with top movies and live premier league and it's on 887 you think viewers won't watch it because they can't find it. Keeping all sports channels etc. together makes sense.

    Anyway Virgin Media More is on 100 on Virgin. I think a lot off people just start on 101 and flick upwards. I'm kind of contradicting myself but I think 100 was a poor choice (ok as a promo channel or yet another number for Netflix access).



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    #6785
    RoTelly
    Registered Users Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119662562#Comment_119662562

    Whatever about 887 on Sky or Virgin, VMTV4 was always going to be at 7 and 8, it just a difference of one, not 100, out a possible 13 channels, not 200.


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    #6786
    JDxtra
    Registered Users Posts: 5,905 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    Classic VM tactic, they are such a joke. It’s not as if VM Four has some great content that people are missing out on!



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    #6787
    timothydec77
    Registered Users Posts: 168 ✭✭timothydec77


    Bottom of barrel stuff.

    A channel with zero imagination.



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    #6788
    thesultan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,690 ✭✭✭thesultan


    Will virgin compete for GAA coverage?



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    #6789
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Not sure what’s happening there, the previous deal was up in April but apparently all rights holders (except eir who pulled out of sport) were given an extra season. So presumably it is now up in April 2023. I don’t think VMTV will go back into that game as long as Sky are there but who knows.



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    #6790
    lertsnim
    Registered Users Posts: 9,766 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119674766#Comment_119674766

    It would be good if they got the games Sky have to keep the games FTA.



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    #6791
    iseegirls
    Registered Users Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭iseegirls


    I know they've done it for a few years now, but it's mad that despite them showing a different match on Irish game nights (as RTE2 show the Irish game), they spend the pre-match, half time break and after match focusing on the Irish game, and not on the live game that VM2/3 showed.



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    #6792
    iseegirls
    Registered Users Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭iseegirls


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119662562#Comment_119662562

    I think for Virgin Media (at least the Horizon boxes) if you make a mistake or time out on entering a channel number, it brings you back straight to channel 100. Might be behind their thinking of putting that channel there.

    I would have expected a higher position for VM4 on VM EPG. Can they easily move RTE+1, or would that cause too much hassle. In truth the whole of VM EPG's needs restructuring. The mixture of HD channels and +1's scattered around makes it messy.



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    #6793
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Virgin’s first live NFL game, Green Bay Packers v New York Giants, on VMTV Two on Sunday at 2pm. Presumably it will be the ITV Network coverage, no more no less.



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    #6794
    Digifriendly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,047 ✭✭✭Digifriendly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119699711#Comment_119699711

    What time is this game starting in US? Early morning?



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    #6795
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    9:30am ET, I think (8:30am CT for the Wisconsin contingent).



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    #6796
    RoTelly
    Registered Users Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://www.bai.ie/en/television-programme-service-contract-application-announcement/

    VMTV1, +1 and 2 national commercial public service license up for grabs.

    Unlikely there will be anyone else going for this license, what might be interesting is if VMTV decided to move their programming across to VMTV3 and 4 and make More +1.


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    #6797
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    It is a relic of another era tbh, but it does come with some benefits in terms of the must offer/must carry provisions and EPG prominence. Quite whether any new entrant would regard these benefits as worth the heavy touch regulation (I am not sure there is another market in Europe where such heavy touch regulation of a commercial tv service still exists) is another thing. And the benefits are likely to become less and less important as the move to steaming gathers apace. I imagine this will probably be the last time the BAI offer a contract of its type and yes I will be very surprised if there’s an applicant other than the incumbent.



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    #6798
    RoTelly
    Registered Users Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119725539#Comment_119725539

    I would have though both ITV and Channel 5 have similar regulations put on them.


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    #6799
    Dodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,288 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119699711#Comment_119699711

    Just to confirm it was exactly this. Unlike Sky and BBC before them, ITV employed their own (British) commentary team rather than use the USTV commentators (in this case, NFL Network we’re broadcasting in the US).



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    #6800
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119726137#Comment_119726137

    No, not to the same extent, the “beauty contest” process for awarding the contract is more similar to pre-1993 ITV. The 1991 ITV franchise round was awarded on the basis of a cash bid subject to passing a quality threshold and the contracts have been more or less automatically renewed since. Channel 5 was similar. There are minimum PSB requirements(which ITV in particular has spent the last 25 years negotiating down) but other than that it has been over 30 years since a U.K. regulator last sought a business plan or programming proposals prior to awarding a license.



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    #6801
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119726168#Comment_119726168

    Yeah I was really surprised at that. The play by play commentator was Darren Fletcher who many may be familiar with from BT’s Premier League coverage. At least they didn’t try to do their own graphics. VMTV seemed to crash into the already in process ITV pre game show.



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    #6802
    Dodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,288 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    To be Fletcher has been BBC radio’s super bowl guy so it wasn’t his first time watching the sport



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    #6803
    RoTelly
    Registered Users Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119726432#Comment_119726432

    What are the regulations on TV3/VMTV ONE and TWO?

    Is it even at 30% Irish content? BAI are a much softer touch regulator than OfCom, IMO.

    I'd argue that ITV requirement for local news is possibly a bigger burden on ITV, and one which they have slowly tried to move away from.


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    #6804
    dublinman1990
    Registered Users Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    Why was the Euro 2024 qualifying draw on Virgin Media More on Sunday morning? Viewers here in Ireland also had the chance to watch the draw on RTÉ2 that morning.



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    #6805
    Longwayjump1991
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭Longwayjump1991


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119725381#Comment_119725381

    What does this mean? Another company will take over from Virgin Media?



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    #6806
    The Cush
    Registered Users Posts: 15,548 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119728647#Comment_119728647

    The licence VM operate under is up for renewal, they're likely to be the only company to submit an application for the new licence term.



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    #6807
    iseegirls
    Registered Users Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭iseegirls


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119728604#Comment_119728604

    Virgin Media will have the rights to broadcast all matches live (that aren't ROI matches) in this qualification stage - so probably makes sense for them to broadcast the draw - as it was available to them.



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    #6808
    Acosta
    Registered Users Posts: 2,362 ✭✭✭Acosta


    The Man Utd match this evening appears to be only on VM More. I'm guessing companies paying for advertising will be less than impressed.



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    #6809
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Surprised at that given there’s nothing particular on VM One or Three that couldn’t be moved. They are host broadcasters for Shamrock Rovers and that is getting shown on VM Two.



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    #6810
    lertsnim
    Registered Users Posts: 9,766 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    More eyes for BT Sport so. It's a bizarre decision as they will have less viewers and nobody is going to sign up to Virgin Media on the back of this.



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    #6811
    Dodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,288 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119739965#Comment_119739965

    It’s a balancing act. Wanting to put something on one of their exclusive channels that people might want to see. I’m sure the advertising is priced accordingly



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