Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

We have 6 league fixtures up to Dec 26th; they include City at home next week and Spurs away. It is likely that on Xmas Day we will be a good distance off 4th so to me, the owners have a decision to make which is risk losing out on CL which would be a serious loss of revenue for the 2023/24 season or give Klopp the funds to buy a RCM. The owners have invested in the capital infrastructure of the club which is obviously beneficial to all and also if they ever decide to sell.

Have to agree with this, while I'm not happy with where we are, the club have done this to themselves. Our supposedly oh so clever transfer policy has blown up in our faces, the panic signing of Arthur was the last straw, but, very reminiscent of us signing Kabak and Ben Davies when we had no fit CBs; there was surely a better option out there and as for this nonsense of waiting for the "right player", that's an excuse not to spend, we got away with it in 20/21 season thanks to Alisson's miracle goal, but, penny pinching when all our main rivals are vastly outspending us is unsustainable and has finally caught up with us.

Signing youngsters like Elliot, Carvalho and Ramsay is fine, but, they aren't ready for first team action when the chips are down and it's unfair to expect much more than cameo appearances and a few cup appearances. We have held onto too many midfielders who aren't contributing anything due to injury or declining due to age, keita, Ox, Milner (great servant but, not up to it any longer) and Jones. The signs were there towards the end of last season, performances dropped especially from the 2nd leg away to Villarreal, which was understandably due to all the matches, that's why we needed a real refresh especially in midfield, some refused to see this in the summer and there are even a few who still refuse to see it. There's a lot said about how we were only 2 games away from the Quadruple, but, equally we were only a few penalty kicks away from nothing and apart from the fa cup semifinal against a below strength City, we didn't beat any top side last season, we also got a favourable draw in the CL.

The season is still salvagable but next week against City could be a low point as we are ripe for the picking and Haaland really could go to town on us, but, after next week we need to at worst maintain the gap between ourselves and the other top 4 rivals until the world cup break.

If used properly the world cup break might just help save our season, most of our players will get a rest which they badly need, plus the club need to have proper midfield reinforcements lined up at the beginning of January; unfortunately I fear the club won't invest properly in January, they will probably try to sign someone on the cheap and then say the right player was unavailable as they did in January 21 when all our CBs were injured. I still think we have a chance of top 4, but, we really need to get our act together to give ourselves a chance. I don't know whose to blame for our poor transfer strategy recently whether it's FSG, Klopp or a combination but, whoever it is needs to realise it's no longer working and something has to change.

My fear is that Klopp might do what he did at Dortmund and walk away at the end of the season, he has earned that right to do that if he feels he has given all he can and owes the club absolutely nothing, he has performed miracles in the last few seasons, but, it appears the club have punished him rather than support him with the transfer strategy and financial constraints. Obviously I hope he turns it around and stays around a few more years as we will be goosed without him.

I have accepted we won't compete with the top spenders in the league with these owners. They are not going to plough their own money into squad investment I think that has become clear. Liverpool are not their only project and certainly not their sole focus. They seem solely focused on increasing their portfolio of assets by buying other clubs / franchises in a variety of sports and then increasing the value of those assests. Falling out of the top 4 will hurt financially and their response if it happens will be telling for the fans.

I'm not sure it's fair to solely put the blame on FSG, Klopp himself said he was happy with the midfielders he had until another injury happened and it was too late in the transfer window at that point.

If Klopp wasn't pushing for a mid, then I think he needs to take a fair chunk of the blame. I think FSG have backed him when requested. As mentioned, we spent 85m on Nunez, a club record, despite him really only having one stand out season to date, which I'd consider a risky transfer.

I honestly believe if we bought Bellingham this summer it wouldn't have been enough to stop what we are seeing . Weve been found out tactically and relentlessly exposed on Trent side time and again and still klopp persists.We have inexplicably weakened our team during the transfer window and it's hard to see where spark of change comes from as it's deeply rooted across the team.

Unfortunately Many of big players are the wrong side of 30 with huge mileage in their legs in last 12 months . We've gone having one of top 5 youngest teams in the league about 4 years ago to the oldest starting 11 . Against Fulham we had Hendo and Milner in the middle with combined age of 68 in the first game of the season.

We seem to have abandoned our moneyball policy of paying mid size money for potentially great players to the massive detriment of team ,holding off on huge profile type transfers when we could arguably get two quality mids for that price sooner and instead we sign Melo. Hard to see how klopp navigates out of this. The way we played after we went 2-2 was really concerning

Give me strength - It's this same small time corner shop mentality that held us back during David Moore and Rick Parry's tenure.

I think we all accept the good work done by FSG on the financial aspect of the club. However it is not just a business, it is also a football club and you have to accept that fans ultimately want their team to be successful on the pitch. It's natural and it is unfair to label fans as spoilt or ungrateful for expressing their concerns about issues surrounding the squad and investment. Some fans like yourself might be content to be financially sound with any onfield success just seen as a bonus. It is unrealistic to expect other fans to share that view. Fans are concluding that the squad needs major investment to compete, more than what we would get from club generated revenue alone. It is a natural consequence that it will bring the fanbase into conflict with the owners if they are unwilling to change that.

Personally I don't think they will. I don't think the prospects of onfield success are good and I expect the fanbase will grow increasingly unhappy the longer it continues.