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New England Patriots Thread Mod Warning Post #253

  • 14-01-2016 10:37am
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    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    A new one will need to be created probably once it gets to 10K posts, so sensible to do it now.

    Go Brady :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Vanolder


    The force awakens...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,535 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I can't believe that there is so much about this Chandler Jones story going around without a shred of evidence. Meanwhile Al Jeezera shutting down their TV channel is being brought forward as vindication for Peyton Manning.

    Nowhere has anybody shown that the Al Jeezera documentary is false but the mediots, ESPN in particular, are trying to make you believe that. Meanwhile Jones has a major drug problem despite the fact that there is no proof of that and he has played football to a high level all season bare one game.

    It pretty much points out that the Patriots are hated by the media while Peyton is their love child.

    I'm not looking for a witch hunt over Peyton, just pointing out that the facts are being distorted ridiculously in both cases by the media.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,469 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    a.jpgNice scene at Foxboro right now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 929 ✭✭✭JCTO


    Shred of evidence? There is a recording of the Cops dispatch saying they found a Class D substance on the counter tops in the house. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to put 2 and 2 together that Jones was on this Class D substance which was proven to be Synthetic Weed. He showed all the symptoms of it. Sure he is innocent until proven guilty but hardly needs huge detective work.

    If Jones was on drugs he is an idiot at best and should cop the fook on. You are in the playoffs and you are going to dabble with drugs the week before. If the story is proven and it is true he did, he joins the ranks of idiots around the league.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 929 ✭✭✭JCTO


    Shedite27 wrote: »
    Nice scene at Foxboro right now

    That's not right now. That was Tuesday when it snowed in the evening. Besides its 10am here :D That will be mostly cleared up by now. Few little flurries between now and then and then freezing storm rain Saturday morning.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    JCTO wrote: »
    Shred of evidence? There is a recording of the Cops dispatch saying they found a Class D substance on the counter tops in the house. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to put 2 and 2 together that Jones was on this Class D substance which was proven to be Synthetic Weed. He showed all the symptoms of it. Sure he is innocent until proven guilty but hardly needs huge detective work.

    If Jones was on drugs he is an idiot at best and should cop the fook on. You are in the playoffs and you are going to dabble with drugs the week before. If the story is proven and it is true he did, he joins the ranks of idiots around the league.

    absolutely. The facts are Jones presented himself to police showing signs of distress and was administered to a hospital. The recordings noted a class D drug in his sitting room. In most cases, this is a nothing incident. For a pro bowl player the bye week of the playoffs, I'm surprised it is not getting more attention to be honest. The drug and the incident on the NFL scale is nothing and might get a slap on the wrist, or be made enter the recreational substance abuse program at worst. The team effect might be worse. This will certainly affect his contract next season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    New Patriots thread so thought it might be worth while re posting 2 of the defining plays in recent Pats history :D





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭Tristram


    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 929 ✭✭✭JCTO


    HigginsJ wrote: »
    New Patriots thread so thought it might be worth while re posting 2 of the defining plays in recent Pats history :D

    Oh hell no I pushed that mod button multiple times :D Still cry watching those plays.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Vanolder


    Gronk has lost his leg, won't play again, ever.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭BKWDR


    Starting to get the jitters now about tomorrow night.

    Surprised that a lot of people are calling the Patriots clear favourites :-/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    ESPN doing ESPN things: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/15/cris-carter-speculates-chandler-jones-smoked-pcp/
    Carter began his statement by admitting he doesn’t know the facts then this:

    "I think he was smoking marijuana, and I think he was smoking some marijuana laced with PCP, or angel dust."

    Jesus Fn Christ, what a joke, this is modern day sports journalism at its finest.


    Also whats crazy is that, ESPN is willing to go completely overboard and wildly speculate on this story and other stories around the league without fear but they won't even acknowledged the Manning HGH story...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Vanolder


    Very Quiet around here...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Vanolder wrote: »
    Very Quiet around here...

    must be the nerves :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 929 ✭✭✭JCTO


    Vanolder wrote:
    Very Quiet around here...

    must be the nerves

    Sitting on the crapper as we speak haha
    Miserable weather outside right now makes for a wet tailgate. Heading to game in next 2 hours. Handy living close to stadium.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,998 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Shades of 2013, injured Gronk ineffective in the playoffs, limping to defeat in Mile High :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 929 ✭✭✭JCTO


    Weird thing about Gronk is that there were conflicting reports about the injection. Something inside me says he will be fine today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,998 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Hope so, want to see him busting out some seam routes. Tired of him playing as a blocker all game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 929 ✭✭✭JCTO


    I was positive until I read this:

    FOXBORO -- It remains a mystery as to how Rob Gronkowski went from not being listed on the injury report for the final two weeks of the regular season to being in enough disrepair after the bye week to be listed as questionable.

    But Gronk’s knee, I have been reliably told, is not his biggest issue entering this Divisional Playoff game against Kansas City.

    Gronk is listed on the injury report with both knee and back problems. Process of elimination leads one to deduce that his back trumps his knee.

    Gronkowski suffered a bone bruise to his knee in late November and ESPN reported this week that he received treatment -- including an injection -- at a local hospital on Thursday.

    Gronkowski did not meet with the media this week, although last week he was available to reporters. He was held out of Tuesday’s full-pad practice and was limited in the other workouts.

    Gronkowski’s dealt with back issues since college. He entered the NFL Draft in 2010 after back surgery caused him to miss all of his sophomore season. Gronkowski explained that the badly ruptured disk he suffered while training at Arizona forced him to make a hard financial decision -- retire from football and collect a $4 million insurance policy taken out on him or enter the NFL and try to maximize earnings at the highest level.

    Gronkowski also had back surgery in the summer of 2013 while he was recovering from his broken (and re-broken) arm.

    The condition of Gronk is the bellwether for Patriots playoff success. In 2011, 2012 and 2013, he was ailing and in each season-ending loss (Super Bowl and a pair of AFC Championships) his absence of ineffectiveness was a major factor. Last season, Gronk was healthy and New England won its first championship in 10 seasons.

    Seems his back is always going to be an issue and of course we know that because he had surgery in 2013 but it could mean seeing less and less of Gronk until he gets to the point it is just too much and retiring is his only option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,998 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    JCTO wrote: »
    I was positive until I read this:



    Seems his back is always going to be an issue and of course we know that because he had surgery in 2013 but it could mean seeing less and less of Gronk until he gets to the point it is just too much and retiring is his only option.

    That'll be pretty tragic. They can always go for his brother as a replacement...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭glued


    Hazys wrote: »
    ESPN doing ESPN things: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/15/cris-carter-speculates-chandler-jones-smoked-pcp/



    Jesus Fn Christ, what a joke, this is modern day sports journalism at its finest.


    Also whats crazy is that, ESPN is willing to go completely overboard and wildly speculate on this story and other stories around the league without fear but they won't even acknowledged the Manning HGH story...

    They don't care about the Manning story becuase it's an Al-Jazeera story. It's a bit sad but true. I think if any other US network broke the story it would have gotten a lot more attention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭frostie500


    Good luck tonight Pats I'm hoping for a Brady Manning AFC championship slightly more than I'm hoping for Andy Reid to get back to the championship game. Should be a good match tonight. 30mins til kickoff!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 929 ✭✭✭JCTO


    Incredible start oline doing its job and the atmosphere is amazing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Vandango


    If the O line has finally turned up, I'm confident this will end well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,278 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    O line doing well and Brady punishing blitzes is keeping them back a bit, hopefully the Chiefs keep playing zone as it has allowed some long time consuming drives which could be very important down the stretch.

    Negatives are that the D is allowing the ball to be moved pretty easily really, but it seems to be a bend don't break which Bill does like. McCourty is again coasting I feel, which he has done all year.

    Great to see big Seb out there and hope Stork isn't too badly banged up. Tough second half ahead but all in all a pretty great first half

    See ya on the other side gents

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,559 ✭✭✭✭paulie21


    Well that was a great improvement on last few weeks. Edelman and Gronk have another week to get back right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭BaronVon


    Collins and Jones didn't finish the game though. It's not easy......

    Mayo too, although have the extra day to recover than the next opponent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭j8wk2feszrnpao


    Quick throws to Edelman helped the OL out big time.
    Even with those early drops, he came back strong, and Brady is less than 2 secs releasing the ball.

    Love the way Brady takes those hits when he almost got in, and then the QB sneak. It's playoff football. It's body on the line stuff. Win, or go home. Setting the standard by walking the walk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,278 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Great to be in another AFC championship game, delighted with some of the performances out there.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭empacher


    I think we're keeping our best for next week. Especially with white. Another week for Edelman and gronkowski to get 100%. Hoping our LB's are ok. Expecting a lot of blitzing next week. To put presure on a failing peyton or banged up Big Ben.

    If it's Denver next an early double gap sack and manning will be seeing ghosts all game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,998 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Hope Jones and Collins are alright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭me89


    Great to get the win even if we made hard work of it at time's. What a difference #11 makes, great to have him back. Hopefully the injuries to Mayo Jones and Collins are not to serious. Bring on next week :) #letsgooo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭BaronVon


    Watching the Broncos Steelers game, I think I'd prefer to travel to Mile High than have the Steelers in Foxboro........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,998 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    I wouldn't fear either tbh, only thing I'd be worried about is the refs in Mile High


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭me89


    Feel very confident going to mile high, we owe them one for earlier this year .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭BaronVon


    me89 wrote: »
    Feel very confident going to mile high, we owe them one for earlier this year .

    We'd want to tackle a little better......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,559 ✭✭✭✭paulie21


    "Bring On New England" sign in the Denver crowd. Don't worry we'll be there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,579 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    infacteh wrote: »
    Watching the Broncos Steelers game, I think I'd prefer to travel to Mile High than have the Steelers in Foxboro........

    Especially if the Steelers would have had Antonio Brown back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,998 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    If we can shut down Anderson, and Hillman to a lesser extent, I think we win that game handily. Peyton wasn't slinging heat by any means. I was surprised at how well the Steelers OL seemed to do, Roethlisburger was fairly unmolested for the majority of the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,535 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Big performances from Chung and McCourty are needed next weekend.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Vanolder


    Looks like Collins will be ok to go... I can honestly only see a Pats win Sunday. We were playing at about 60% the other night and still put up 27 points - a tally no team had scored against KC in almost 3 months. The Broncos have looked average for a while now and their defence, which has carried them a lot, looks to be tiring. They still have some of the best WRs in the game and Anderson will need to be stopped but if the Pats can get to near 80% this week I see a 24-17 win.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭j8wk2feszrnpao


    Watched the send half of the game from last night. It wasn't much of a watch (the entire game).

    But that Denver D kept them in the game, and they are capable of doing it next week as well. Pats will need to be at 80% min, and maybe closer to 90%. Denver eliminates those poor drops (and maybe Manning throws a bit better) and they have the receivers to hurt us.

    Edelman back was huge, Brady had a lot of quick releases, which was a real help to the OL.
    Likely to be a similar plan next week, cause 2yrd pickups on the ground isn't an option. Lots of quick throws to Edelman, Danny and hopefully more involvement for White as well. Mix in a number of catches for Gronk, and we have a great chance of another SB visit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,535 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Well regardless of what happens next Sunday I don't think we can complain. We are in the AFCCG for the fifth consecutive year, we are so spoiled as fans.

    It's going to be very hard for whoever comes along after Brady and Belichick in their respective positions. There are a lot of younger fans who have grown up with this dominant franchise who will not be able to accept or understand that it's very difficult to just win your division.

    Next Sunday will be very difficult. This is the only team that Tom Brady has a losing record against over his career and it only happened in 2015 when we lost to them during the regular season up in Denver.

    I've always said I don't like Brady playing up there, I don't think I've even seen him have a great game in that stadium. I'm not expecting to win this game but hopeful that we can.

    It could very well come down to the kickers when drives stall and we have two of the best in the NFL going at it in that department next Sunday too.

    All I'm hoping for is a week of good news as regards injuries and practice. If we go there pretty healthy I'll be very hopeful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭BaronVon


    Full attendance at practice :)

    375546.jpgCZRmG-BWkAUE2fU (1).jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,278 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Mayo is on IR right? 3rd straight year ending the season without him. I expect to see plenty of Chung in the box on Sunday

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭BaronVon


    Yeah, Mayo to IR. He has a big cap hit next year, around $11.4m according to Reiss, and he already restructured, so it could be the end of him in Foxboro


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,535 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    LIMITED PARTICIPATION WR Danny Amendola (knee) TE Scott Chandler (knee) LB Jamie Collins (back) DB Nate Ebner (hand) WR Julian Edelman (foot) LB Darius Fleming (back/shin) LB Jonathan Freeny (hand) TE Rob Gronkowski (knee/back) LB Dont’a Hightower (knee) OL Tre’ Jackson (knee) DE Chandler Jones (abdomen/toe) DE Rob Ninkovich (shin) WR Matthew Slater (shin) OL Bryan Stork (ankle) OT Sebastian Vollmer (ankle) OT LaAdrian Waddle (shoulder)

    FULL PARTICIPATION QB Tom Brady (ankle) SS Patrick Chung (foot) OL Josh Kline (shoulder) WR Brandon LaFell (foot) FS Devin McCourty (ankle)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,998 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Pretty much a full team, that's nice to see. Be interesting if Chandler has any significant role this wknd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,535 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I think there are far too many limited participants, need to see a much smaller list tonight.

    I hope to see the majority listed as probable after practice today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,559 ✭✭✭✭paulie21


    See there's a blizzard across the states though don't think it'll hit Denver


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