Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

RTE banging the drum on hospital numbers again, suggesting mask restrictions are incoming

474 people in hospital with the virus, up from 464 on the same time yesterday and 409 last Tuesday

Does anybody know the figures for the much more dangerous flu?

Look at the ICU stats for admissions of people for covid under 70.

The reason why they didn't die was because hospital capacity was there to treat them.

Who said "we were all equally at risk"?

Or did they say, we were all at risk?

And what?

If you look at ICU and hospital admissions for other western countries you will see the same profile.

If it can put you into ICU or hospital, you are 'at risk'. And the people it was putting into hospital included significant numbers of under 70s.

In the US 20% of deaths were under 65 and 20% of those had no known co-morbidity.

What exactly is this meant to show?

Your own graph is contradicting your own revisionist argument.

So who said we were all equally at risk and what did they base that on. It was your claim.

If only people over 70 had to worry about covid, how do 50-64 year olds have 3 times the risk of hospitalisation and 25 times the risk of death.

So the risk is there.

What else happened in winter 2020 to protect our ICU capacity and hospitals from being overwhelmed with covid admissions? You remember, the people needing ventilators etc etc

And we weren't the only ones to implement restrictions for that reason.

So, if it was their 'mantra', you should able to find this reference in every meeting. Go ahead. It is your claim this meant we were all equally at risk.

They brought out examples of people across ages who were hit with severe covid, to show we were all at risk.

So just because they brought out such examples, it in no way can prove your claim.

25 times a small risk, from a highly infectious virus, translates to numbers going to hospital. It is a numbers game.

As for your claims re: stillbirth, this is false.

Although stillbirth was a rare outcome overall, a COVID-19 diagnosis documented during the delivery hospitalization was associated with an increased risk for stillbirth in the United States, with a stronger association during the period of Delta variant predominance.

Yes worldwide .

But also deaths here especially in the last few months of 2021.

Excess deaths is not the same as Covid deaths , but is numbers adjusted to a mean from examining all cause deaths .

If you want to talk about excess deaths then , worldwide between 2020 and 2021 there were 2, 458, 471 deaths in the age range from 40 to 59 ..WHO

That's a lot of parents , workers and not yet at the end of life , as some people like to say about the over 60s !

They were the worst hit age group especially by Alpha and Delta , as mostly older people were vaccinated .

At a time when the UK had published stats on Covid deaths to show they were heavily skewed toward elderly age groups and people already ill, and before any stats were published for Covid deaths in Ireland, the message here was that everyone was at risk.

And in actual fact - that’s true. Everyone is at risk, just as everyone close to a road is at risk of being hit by a car. What they omitted was that risk was narrowly targeted. Simon Harris on Twitter and radio in early days, post UK stats, conveyed the message that everyone was equally at risk. I remember it clearly, haven’t a source just now, and it was very early in pandemic - but most definitely was after the identified risk groups were deduced from UK stats.

So either Mr. Harris (18 previous Covids) was ignorant of established stats outside of Ireland during a worldwide pandemic, or he was bare-faced lying. I plump for the former personally. Examples of all ages groups hit with several Covid while not explaining risk categories is not trustworthy leadership - even if it was early days, data was there.

Regarding stillborn babies, we are the only country to count them as Covid deaths. That is not a false statement. This occurred during a time when pregnant women were likely deterred from seeking medical help, outside perhaps of reduced scheduled checkups, as a result of their own fear and from societal pressure to keep medical facilities ready for emergencies and severe covid illness. Maybe it’s a case of better monitoring would have lead to no increase in stillborn babies?

We may never know, but as your link is a pre-release from almost a year ago I would expect the evidence for covid causing stillborn babies to have been cemented by now with evidence showing proven mechanism rather than increased occurrence.

I used to like this fella, almost relaxing to listen to, nice pace and speaks clearly. Unfortunately he became a malignant Anti-vax crank who makes ever so cryptic yet deliberately misleading remarks and misinterpretations of studies to feed his Anti-vax fans while avoiding YouTube censure

Mr Harris! Wow you had to trawl back for that ! That's because he was talking at the very beginning when he was ignorant as were many about what was to come . Remember a lot of confusion at that time ? Covid 17 and 18 ? Same guy , lol .

And those fetal deaths were recognised stillbirths from Covid placentitits , 6 in fact , which caused a rightfully big upset at the time and also a few very sick pregnant ladies in ICU with Covid .

You didn't see more thankfully, because there was a major information campaign directed by the maternity hospitals afterwards towards pregnant couples to try to overcome the misinformation and lies about Covid vaccines . And it was successful . There was a very high uptake of vaccination amongst pregnant women after that and we had less of them ending up very sick and in ICU .

What happened to those people talking about birth defects and infertility from the vaccines after those poor women ended up in ICU ? They disappeared . Started on another group . No shame , no conscience .

You wanted " cemented " proof ...

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35020786/