Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

And now switching over to Denmark for something with different context. Gish gallop very much setting in.

Here's why Denmark are not offering the vaccinations to people under 50.

"The purpose of the vaccination programme is to prevent severe illness, hospitalisation and death. Therefore, people at the highest risk of becoming severely ill will be offered booster vaccination. The purpose of vaccination is not to prevent infection with covid-19, and people aged under 50 are therefore currently not being offered booster vaccination.

People aged under 50 are generally not at particularly higher risk of becoming severely ill from covid-19. In addition, younger people aged under 50 are well protected against becoming severely ill from covid-19, as a very large number of them have already been vaccinated and have previously been infected with covid-19, and there is consequently good immunity among this part of the population.

It is important that the population also remembers the guidance on how to prevent the spread of infection, including staying at home in case of illness, frequent aeration or ventilation, social distancing, good coughing etiquette, hand hygiene and cleaning."

Again, none of these replies are for your benefit.

Originally it was because 5G was being rolled out and it was to track us, for reasons TBC. Something about China, socialism etc.

Track us, like Google and the like do already.

Thankfully most of the loonies have vanished from here. Hopefully back living a normal life again after ruining it for 2 years.

There was that period where the vaccines were going to alter people's DNA to help turn us into cyborgs also.

And then it was claims that the vaccines would kill millions.

Now it's been down graded so much that they're desperately clinging onto the notion that it causes slightly higher numbers of a rare heart issue.

They need a win cause they're not allowed by their religion to accept they might have just been wrong.

Same shite happened with the swine flu vaccine and we still had folks here claiming that they were right about that too. Gonna happen again.

More deliberate dishonesty and avoiding by yourself.

Dohnjoe explained exactly an example of how "experts" can be questionable. You avoided that post entirely and now you're trying to demand an answer to your question again.

Oh yes. A prolific one.

This is the "but we were told" argument explained a looong time ago in the thread.

According to you, "we were told" the vaccines would stop Covid infections. That we'd all be vaccinated and it wouldn't spread anymore. However the virus mutates, and that didn't happen.

Normal rational people can grasp this. You on the other hand have been unable to process it, let alone get over it. In your mind, the vaccines were "sold" as stopping Covid, and when that didn't happen, the "powers-that-be" all over the world pivoted on their word.

You feel like you were "betrayed" and this is your ensuing crusade to highlight it.

You even have an accompanying conspiracy to go with it, but are generally "smart" enough to keep details on that low and not mention it too much, because you know how whacky it is.

This thread has become your mini side-of-the-road protest and anti-vax tropes have become your placards

I know plenty of people who thought the vaccines might completely stop infection. When that didn't occur they understood it.

Not everyone did. Unfortunately some individuals are ultimately scared by the fact that we aren't in control of everything, so they comfort themselves with the notion that somehow we deliberately didn't control the virus, rather than accept that we were unable to.

I expect when the data from Florida is looked at they will find that the people who were vaccinated were higher risk than the people who did not get vaccinated to begin with.

The study presumes that the people in both groups were of equal risk. This is contrary to what we know and uptake of vaccines is higher in higher risk groups.

The study also fails to even consider if there was an increase year on year in actual cardiac related deaths.

The data really needs to be drilled into. It is way to premature to make any decisions or recommendations based on this data.

The authors of the report recommend further studies before drawing any conclusions due to the study's limitations. So it looks like Ladapo has jumped the gun on this this for his own reasons.

What do you mean "Another"?

The last one you posted didn't show that. You emailed the author and they explained this to you and you've been spending the last two weeks trying to pretend that didn't happen. People don't have as short of a memory as you seem to believe.

And again, it appears that you're trying to pull the same tactic of just posting a graph you are taking out of context without actually pointing out where in the study it says anything about "negative effectiveness."

That study does not say the vaccines are negatively effective.

Also, on the top of the link you posted is this very prominent warning:

Which leads me to believe that you didn't actually read it.

You will of course ignore this, pretend that you can't see these points and you will spam the same image again and again without actually addressing any of the points.

You will convince no one.