Random Wrestling Thoughts (Part 2)

14-08-2022 5:33pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119472275#Comment_119472275

If he brings back the good brothers he's really lost the plot. 2 of them are abysmal. Delighted when they stopped showing up on AEW.

14-08-2022 5:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119472456#Comment_119472456

I can make a defence of Killer Kross (who I know you described as bottom of the barrel and I can see where you're coming from) but the Good Brothers are genuinely the bottom of the barrel. Kross seems to at least understand the finer details of the business and with a manager like Scarlett, there's money there. He's not Malenko or Angle but there's $$$$ definitely there.

Necro · 14-08-2022 6:52pm

I don't think any of the returns have been terrible so far tbh, depends on how they position Lumis I suppose. Kross was absolutely ruined on his initial call up by Vince (losing to Jeff and then the BDSM ring gear) so he definitely deserved another shot. Hit Row got a huge pop and are a decent injection to the tag division (Swerve is a massive loss but they can definitely work as a tag team going forward). Dakota and Iyo speak for themselves and have been booked well thus far at least.

CastorTroy · 14-08-2022 7:00pm

Mia Yim? Another one hard done by on the main roster.

Speaking of, I think HHH needs to help T-Bar.

16-08-2022 1:28pm

Lio Rush teasing coming out of his 534th retirement, I guess he could take Swerves place and the main man in Hit Row.

PTH2009 · 25-08-2022 12:11pm

Will Vince go into the HOF next year ?

Agent Coulson · 28-08-2022 3:17pm

Corny is wrestling's Grampa Simpson

I used to be with ‘it’, but then they changed what ‘it’ was. Now what I’m with isn’t ‘it’ anymore and what’s ‘it’ seems weird and scary. It’ll happen to you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DlTexEXxLQ&ab_channel=MostlySimpsons

ThePott · 02-09-2022 7:37pm

Just watched the latest episode of Welcome to Wrexham and they used Shane O'Mac's music 🤣

Love when random wrestling music pops up in places.

J. Marston · 11-09-2022 2:24am

https://twitter.com/wrestlingnewsco/status/1528778621120282634

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Agent Coulson · 12-09-2022 5:15pm

17 years ago when TNA put on one of the greatest matches of all time.

https://twitter.com/IMPACTWRESTLING/status/1372608744056623106?s=20&t=7V4NXl64HPMseHRdVsgcyw

B.A._Baracus · 13-09-2022 10:33am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119601992#Comment_119601992

Lot of truth in that promo.

J. Marston · 13-09-2022 1:08pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119611157#Comment_119611157

The idea of Punk being so giving and wanting what's "best for the business" makes me laugh.

Same guy won 3 feuds against 3 of AEW's most touted young guys in 8 months to become world champion and until a month ago the internet fawned over him. He's Triple H...but worse.

CastorTroy · 07-10-2022 10:20am

Seeing the rules for the Impact Call Your Shot Battle royal, which is basically a Royal Rumble but when it gets to the final 2 it goes to pinfall or submission, it had me wondering what's the preferred method among fans for deciding the winner? I think AEW has ended some Battle Royals the same way, while WWE seems to always be over the top rope.

I think both have their good and bad points. Over the top rope can lead to surprise victories and tension but also can go wrong, be predictable or just a crap elimination. Pinfall/submission requirement means you get a match between what is likely to be 2 of the top talent but after what is usually about an hour of action, the crowd could be exhausted and ready for the thing to be over.

Agent Coulson · 11-10-2022 1:11pm

I wonder does Vince sit in on Monday and Friday night and watch his product since he still owns it.

Or does he go to his private gym and work out non stop while the shows air.

riffmongous · 11-10-2022 10:55pm

I personally prefer the over the top rope finish, and even then the finish needs to happen very quickly from the final three.. it can start to drag very quickly.

The one fall finish is better on paper but usually it's just going through the motions from any events I can remember, got any good examples of ones that had a hot match and ending?

gerrybbadd · 12-10-2022 3:33pm

Has anyone noticed a marked improvement in WWE camerawork after Vince's retirement? Less mental, seizure inducing, zooming etc?

CastorTroy · 12-10-2022 4:21pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119732486#Comment_119732486

None I can think of. Prefer the over the top rope finish as well, but was just curious. I remember AEW did the match where the final 2 fought the next week which was really strange.

12-10-2022 8:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119735047#Comment_119735047

I haven't tbh. I haven't watched much though, just the odd bit here and there. It's still the main thing that keeps me from watching weekly. Don't think it'll change until Dunn is gone.

gerrybbadd · 13-10-2022 11:35am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119736142#Comment_119736142

It's still there, just not as "severe" as it used to be. WWE is getting a lot right these days, if they fix their camera work, it'll do a whole lot for further improving the product.

Pentecost · 13-10-2022 8:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119735047#Comment_119735047

I hadn't watched any of it until Extreme Rules and I thought it was definitely better. Still zooms and cuts here and there but much more watchable.

Blue_Dabadee · 14-10-2022 12:51am

WWE product just feels like in transition creatively still.

Once Reigns gets dethrone possibly WrestleMania next year, it will actually feel like new era in WWE.

B.A._Baracus · 14-10-2022 9:21am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119741968#Comment_119741968

Wonder what this era will be known as. The triple h era?

B.A._Baracus · 14-10-2022 9:27am

Random thought: "old" school working can and does still work today.

Watched mjf vs yuta and mjf is such an old school worker. Taking his time, showing his arse (proverbially lol) and just pure working. It's a lost art today. Everything has to be 100 moves a minute for most - not all - but most.

briany · 16-10-2022 9:10pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119533291#Comment_119533291

This is the criticism put against Cornette all the time, but his basic argument is that the fundamentals of wrestling psychology do not change, which I agree with. You take two guys, you present them as credible combat athletes, you introduce a disagreement or dispute between them, you build that towards a showdown, you do it in a way that is at least somewhat logical. I don't care how many flips are involved, especially not when the previous elements are missing from the equation. He's right when he says that the Firefly Funhouse match was dumb, for example. It was at least as dumb as that time Hulk Hogan pulled an effigy of his own head out of a gift box.

At LEAST as dumb. And that's a thing that gets ridiculed to this day among fans old enough to remember it. Same thing - silly props and bad hammy acting.

Cornette's probably a better heel to the people who disagree with him than any actual heel in the wrestling business today, because he can actually say what he wants. Big wrestling companies' heels must operate under the proviso of, "Make people hate you without saying anything offensive or controversial whatsoever", which is a true contradiction in terms.

B.A._Baracus · 17-10-2022 2:42pm

I see in the Irish promotions thread Rebel County wrestling is starting up. It's mad when you think of it tho, like the Irish wrestling scene started 20 years ago and all the promotions are gone. Iww, cpw, main stage, dcw etc.

Then to think of all the lads who trained and wrestled. 99.9% just stopped. There's some drop out rate with wrestling.

Agent Coulson · 20-10-2022 10:28pm

Random thought of the day does Tony Khan own shares in the public company that is the WWE.

hynesie08 · 21-10-2022 9:21am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119772941#Comment_119772941

I'm fairly sure he'd have to declare it as a conflict of interest.

EDIT: AEW isn't a publicly traded company, he has no one to answer to but himself, I'd say he has a few lying around.

21-10-2022 1:29pm

If Daddy Ass was at the DX reunion on RAW last week he would have been more over than the rest of DX and Scissor Me Daddy Ass chants would have drowned out everything else.

J. Marston · 21-10-2022 2:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119774843#Comment_119774843

Why did they not chant it then? They shouted his name for the DX bit. If he's so over, surely they would've chanted his new catchphrase?

B.A._Baracus · 22-10-2022 10:43am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119772941#Comment_119772941

I don't see him owning any at all. Don't see any benefit. Tony is insanely rich. Am sure he invests in the stockmarket but his wrestling investment is aew.

Besides, shareholders are said to be public knowledge. Don't think it would look too well if it came out he held shares in his competition.

Random Wrestling Thoughts (Part 2)

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