"Green" policies are destroying this country

It just seems like my local council installed it in that house as a box ticking exercise rather than putting any thought into it at all. 600 quid for 2 months electricity in the summer is insane!

For comparison- I’ve a stove in mine. Large trailer load of sticks cost 160 and that will do for a year so that’s 30 quid (I’ve rounded up to allow for transport costs) for 2 months. No need for coal at all. Oil I’m guessing 150 for 2 months. Electricity will be roughly 200. So my winter heating and electricity will be in the region of 400 euros for 2 months.

Go green, yey! 😂

I don’t know much about them so am only telling you what they said. Are they meant to be left running all the time though?

The truth is the heat pumps and all the green heating and energy efficiencies are being built into new homes. It’s adding about 100k to the cost of the houses. A young person or couple buying that house, will recoup that cost over the lifetime of them living in that home. However, for people with older houses and generally older people, they will never recoup the cost of that retrofit. It’s infinitely more expensive than new build and you literally have to tear your house apart to retrofit it to a standard high enough to not need fossil fuel heating. People will not put themselves in debt to their eyeballs to save the planet.

I know a guy who has installed a boiler than runs off burning logs/wood. I am not sure how he managed it but he converted an oil based system to logs. He says he has to top up the logs about 3 times a day. The fire can be controlled easily to tip away all day. He has the boiler a fair bit away from the house and insulated the pipes really well. Because of his job, he has access to several years of timber so he is self sufficient now.

If my memory serves me correctly, there hadn’t been anybody living in that house properly for a few years prior. We changed our original boiler 2ish years ago so I say the one in that house needed replacing. The council must have just put in a heat pump rather than a new boiler when they bought it.

Not when they have to replace the cheap Chinese made crap after 10 years.

There goes the savings out the window.

I thought most heat pumps made by Mitsubishi, Japan.

Is this all the greens fault too, or are is everyone in on the scam?

A wood pellet boiler modified to take wood? There are stoves with what are termed back boilers that do this. First house I bought in Ireland was owned by a farmer and had a Stanley range cooker in the kitchen that took coal/wood which had a back boiler that was what ran all the radiators with an ancillary electric pump to move the water. It was a pain so I had a kerosene boiler added.

So your not going to retract your statement then.

Talking about the Netherlands, after pissing off the farmers with their fixed % of Co2 reduction they are now coming for the industrial plants demanding the same thing. You couldn't make it up! Except they did. People seem to think this is normal, cutting production to get to the Co2 ceiling demanded by the EU. The green clergy, vatican, articles of faith, dogma, inquisition and so on.

But the thing is demand by consumers is not dropping so the goods will be produces in some other country instead, same end result, same or more emissions if you also add the shipping emissions. Crazy stuff.

Thank you. I have some hope we actually will see nuclear power growing fast in the next 5 years if even Greta T and some Greens are now supporting it. Every energy policy in the EU for the last 20-40 years has been to obstruct, halt and reverse anything to do with fossil fuels and nuclear. Long term investment stalled, nuclear power plants closed or heavily restricted (France), banking on imports so the host country wouldnt feel the guilt. Last minute.com.

The mess in Germany and the current energy crisis have a direct link to those policies.

If we are looking for a way out we HAVE to go nuclear. If you think Green tech is promising you really should look at nuclear.

My guess and hope for the next 5-10 years: refocussed investment in nuclear by the oil and gas industry with long term contracts. People dont realise how much built up expertise there is in that area. They looked at solar and wind for a while to try and make the shift. But, like any serious investigation showed, it does not add up.

But, they could also do both IF nuclear becomes the top priority. And that is hopefully the (near) future. Nothing like a good crisis to focus the minds but in a very different way the Greens had envisioned.

Germany will walk into a wall. Too ideologically driven to NOT hit it. They still continue to destroy their remaining nuclear plants. Even now! Imagine that stupidity..

goddam china and india. i knew it!

curios to know what other is? it that % of total output?

Lies. You must be on certain specific social welfare payments. And at that there's a 28 month waiting period and counting. Try again.