The Pushback against Leftism

Since people here cannot illucidate a single example of how anything to do with trans has impacted them in any way - I think we can safely conclude that they are playing pure culture wars.

The Tavistok issues arose out of an underresourcing and lack of oversight of a severely overstretched but essential resource. It has led to a recommendation of expansion of services with a bigger and more diverse team of specialists - which has got to be a good thing.

As to puberty blockers, I disagree that they are an inappropriate treatment because to not offer them leaves the most vulnerable individuals open to very high rates a suicide and self harm. You have to first accept that young adults are genuine in their gender dymorphism, once you do that you have ask how traumatic it would be to suddenly be face with your body changing to something that you absolutely felt did not represent your own body image. Imagine a heterosexual man suddenly growing a set of breasts just when they were at their most body conscious. You would not expect them to have to wait for years for medical treatment.

The basis of my belief is that once you have established that the gender dymorphism is genuine and stable over an extended period of time (which is what happens now) you should do everything possible to support that reality. Alleviating the horrendous levels of suicide and self harm have to be the top priority - and once gender dymorphism is established that has to be more than just counciling because counciling must acknowledge the lived reality of the individual for it to be authentic and legitimate.

People here and transphobics in general want to deny the reality of trans lives and so put a roadblock to offering appropriate support and treatment. This is a totally unacceptable stance and what I will always fight against whenever I see it.

All I want to see is people been respected and supported in what they say about themselves.

There are a few things to unpack here.

1% is not a pay-gap its very much shows men and women are paid and or valued about the same.

Nobody is arguing over 1%!

You seem to think the 1% shows that no women are earning more then men.... Plentely of women are earning more then men for doing the same job I have worked with many women in tech who earn more than men of similar skill set age and experience.

Also to have an almost 0% varience would need to have almost as many women earning more than men as men earning more than women.

Tech is a place where due to the ratio of men to women, women become more valuable as there are simply less of them so tech companies are competing with each other over them.

Men and woman are different, again the far left will have you believe men and women are the same or biology is not a thing but it is.

Men are more aggressive.

Aggressively negotiating a salary for example is very hard to measure.

The monster link is probably a year out of date, tech salaries even in the last 12 months are up considerably.

The argument we are having is a perfect example of how liberalism can go awry, a work place where we see fairness is being painted as unfair and biased. The 1% is not enough you want it to be 0% even though common sense should tell you that is going to be unlikely unless you actually do think communism is the way to go.

If you want to discuss Tavistock granularly I suggest start a Tabistock thread this thread is far broader.

A profoundly important analysis of why these culture wars are becoming so important to the right and the conclusion is

"But that’s not going to happen. Because there is another reason that the Right sounds so panicked. And it’s that its members know a simple truth. Their institutions are fraying. Their view of the world is in retreat. Their common sense is increasingly contested."

This the essential nature of the culture wars an indifference and hostility to the establish, elite driven, "natural" order, an order specifically designed to favour elites.

Perhaps you could start practicing your own sermon here by addressing the poster singularly, rather than addressing them "and your cohort" and referring to this "cohort" as a "cult"

hey?

Maybe people you see as being 'in a cult' is a perspective issue?

How is this not spiteful in and of itself? How is it constructive?

Just on yer man in the skirt, it didn't look like a kilt to me, wasn't pleated in the front like a kilt should be and had a side split, and the nude collage was posted on @haus_magazine twitter, an LGBT art / fashion / culture magazine

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Well it is 0% for 20 - 30 years olds according to the data you provided.

The "gap" again according to the data you provided happens in the age demographic 30 - 40... Strange that!

Due to a push for diversity female programmers are paid more especially gradutes, this is a pretty simple concept to understand.

I never said the "only way" again this is what the far left does, they make a number of statements with no solutions, the argument becomes circular where all you seem to be suggesting is "make everything the same"... OK what is the cause of the gap? What is the solution?

This is not the data set we were discussing before you barged in with irrelevant guff. We were discussing the controlled pay gap reported on pay scale.

"Imagine having to explain to someone don't work for free"

Imagine having to explain someone Barriers to Entry.

"Just don't work for free" is a lot like saying "just don't be sad"

The bar I worked at in Carlow (name and shame, it was the Dinn Ri) in the mid 2000s first insisted on unpaid shifts as the interview. Then they withheld my last cheque over a 10 euro shirt. Gas logic.

Ah sure

The gap mentioned in your study also includes care time for dependents etc. - things which in other EU countries they have public sector support for, eg. French Au Pairs. These duties for the economy fall on women in your households and are not compensated while the rich get richer.