Greenways [greenway map of Ireland in post 1]

Saw this earlier re: BoyneValley-Lakelands greenway

Boyne Greenway Update – Dáil debate September 2022

The status of the Boyne Greenway was the subject of a recent Dáil debate between local TD Peadar Tóibín, Minister Eamon Ryan and Darren O’Rourke TD

Boyne Greenway Update – Dáil debate September 2022

http://navancycling.ie/boynegreenway-daildebate22/

The status of the Boyne Greenway was the subject of a recent Dáil debate The Boyne Greenway was recently discussed in the Dail by several TD's and the Minister of Transport. The Greenway, which has ran into constant delays and problems, was originally due to go Public Consultation Stage 2 (ro

Main points: See full debate in link above.

• Public Consultation Stage 2 (route selection) was originally due in Q3 2021 (over 14 months ago). MCC issued the draft phase 2 options selection report to TII in May. But TII raised several queries with the local authority, and it still back with MCC to resolve.
• “TII expects that the emerging preferred option for the greenway will be published by the local authority in quarter 4 this year (*16 month delay). It is likely that the phase 2 gate review process will not be completed until early 2023.”
• The main reason for delay is the project was been carried out as joint greenway and river navigation restoration project. TII only have input for the greenway part, and the navigation part is causing serious complications. They need to be separated.
• Eamon Ryan confirms the Greenway should be extended not just to Trim, but to the Royal Canal Greenway, which would create an amazing network of greenways in the region (also connecting to the Kingscourt greenway).

They say Youghal to Dungarvan but surely they mean Youghal to Cappoquin where it would link up with the old Mallow track.

IIRC wasn't there plans for a new pedestrian/cycle bridge over the N25 from the train station into Eastgate in little Island? That would allow a link to the Dunkettle to Carrigtwohill cycle way they are building at the moment. (Pedestrian/cycling facilities on little island are a joke at the moment I might add)

Perhaps. The only reference I can find is in this Examiner article:

It refers to a Little Island Sustainable Transport Interventions Plan. But I can't find the plan anywhere.

Great to see these latest maps from TII, especially here in Mayo, of their planned long distance Greenways connecting Sligo, Mayo and Tuam in Galway!

Probably already answered but Glounthaune to Carrigtohill is underway. Planned link to LI begins to open on Monday 24-Oct-22 and will soon be developed further, into the back of Eastgate. A new link from LI train station (bridge) will happen soon. The project from Dunkettle to City is at design stage, as per pathfinder project.

Funding not approved by NTA in 2019, but project is not scrapped.

What does that mean in reality as in how far it could be away? I could only find one small reference to it in an examiner article.

My original point is that these kinda links are the most important and turn what are local walkways or good for kids cycling into usable transport infrastructure. Get more people on it. Help stop people from saying the bike lane is empty.

I understand they are the most complex and costly but they are also probably the most dangerous to cycle.

Also there is no sign of any work starting from Elm Tree in Glounthaune to Carrigtwohill. Work is currently focused on

It's probably the most dangerous part of the road as it's a old skew railway bridge. I was nearly killed there 20 years ago by a truck.

Yep a new pedestrian/bike bridge directly from the LI train station to the Radisson I believe. Refused funding in 2019. Little Island "Crompán" roundabout will likely get lights before this happens, because the roundabout/junction is considered a major pedestrian safety hazard at present and even if you build the new bridge, people will need to cross at the Crompán. So I presume the Crompán won't be touched until the new Little Island West interchange is opened, such is the current congestion: any upgrade to that Crompán/junction will "facilitate vulnerable road users" and naturally a consequence will be that motorised traffic is constrained, and I suspect they will likely not do that until there is an alternative available. I don't have insight though, into what Cork Co Co, TII and NTA have netted out on overall.

The Glanmire to Little Island will be completed by mid-2023. The Elm Tree to Carrigtohill scheme(s) will be completed by 2025. The problem is it's three schemes. Two council schemes with a crappy private bit in the middle. One Council scheme ends at the west of the IDA park and is reasonably straightforward: they will stay north of the train tracks and join the IDA business park from the West. They will also add extra width to the skew bridge and carry on to Ballyseedy, neither are very alike the previous section of "Glounthaune" greenway. The next scheme starts at the East of the IDA park and goes to Ballyadam (the Midleton side of Carrigtohill) and the design here looks quite good. The IDA park itself has it's own extremely low standard of "greenway" running through it, completed as of last year or so. I would hope that the Council ask them to re-do this recently-completed shoddy design. You can see why it will take another 2-3 years. Baby steps.

Food for thought for promoters of greenways through howling wildernesses or urban wastelands.

https://www.wlrfm.com/news/greenway-is-nothing-without-the-amenities-around-it-according-to-chamber-ceo-274337

The spin between Athlone and Mullingar is a lot more populated for one thing.

Greenways are very long parks and their function in not providing safe A to B routes.

Travel the Limerick Greenway and the busiest bit is easily the Barna section with the lovely scenery and amenities.

A few people here commenting that Greenways are not for transport. I happen to agree: greenways are not currently being designed as though they're transport infrastructure and you've all previously had to suffer my opinion in this regard. I'd urge you to make submissions to NTA's CycleConnects, which specifically names greenways as transport infrastructure. The government and NTA's current strategies consider greenways as links to connect people from A to B, exactly as DaCor describes above.