Why should I care about Climate Change while China has 43 New Coal Fired Power Stations in the works

Well they have business with you, and with each other.

Reportedly US conservatives are alarmed (around election time imagine) about China buying up tracts of US farmland for example.

Ah, Free Market Capitalism. Great gimmick.

A country like Taiwan could build multiple Intel sizes fabs in a single year due to the demand for newer gen chips.

It is little known how power hungry advanced chip manufacturing is. And how Asian governments will support this critical industry at almost all costs. Chips being the new oil...

TSMC makes most of the worlds most advanced chips, including Apple's chips.

Who is buying those phones and tablets?

https://english.cw.com.tw/article/article.action?id=2766

20 minutes ago you confidently said "one modern chip plant takes the entire power generation of a city" and absolutely tore into another user for not taking your words at face value.

Now some awful backpedaling.

Not sure who you are fighting with ?

You want to fight with me or something?😄

I tore into the user because he/she completely ignored what I wrote.

I'm just stating the facts. Most people know almost nothing about the power demands of modern chip manufacturing, of the chips that they use in their phones.

They are actually part of the problem when they buy an iPhone. They need to pay attention to that.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/03/tsmc-samsung-and-intel-have-a-huge-carbon-footprint.html

Taipei is a mega city with massive energy needs You aren't impressed yet ?

Ok, I will give you more stats even though you could Google it yourself.

One plant in Taichung. The small nm chips require usage of ASML EUV machines which are enormously power hungry.

TSMC's Taichung 2nm Plant Projected To Use 100,000 Cubic-Meters Of Water Daily and Billions of Kilowatt-Hours of Electricity In A Year

https://english.cw.com.tw/amp/article/1663

The assessment found that the new TSMC plant, expected to enter mass production in 2020, will increase electricity demand in the park by 46 percent, from 1.52 gigawatts (1 gigawatt = 1 million kilowatts) originally to 2.22 GW after TSMC moves in.

According to documents the park provided to the EPA, TSMC’s 5-nanometer plant will need an estimated 720 megawatts of electricity, roughly equal to the increase in power the park applied for.

I feel bad for them too

I also felt bad for the people who have already lost everything because of the affects of climate change.

But we've already shown that that's not true.

The power houses of the world are investing unbelievable amounts of cash into renewables, but they're also investing in fossil fuels as well because right now the best energy storage device on the planet is coal, oil, and gas.

Some people love to point fingers and use whataboutery as an excuse to do nothing.

"Why should we do anything when China's doing nothing?"

"China is actually doing far more than we're doing"

"But what about XYZ?"

"Yep, still doing more than us though..."

The OP talks like Ireland and China are in some way comparable. Ireland is a speck of a country. There are over 100 cities in China with a greater population than our capital. Per population, if we built one coal power plant, they would need 280, not counting the vast differences in industrial power. But that doesn't give us a free pass to burn tires. We are every bit responsible for the planet.

Do you honestly think the Chinese govt, or the Chinese people don't know or care about Climate Change?

I would say they have prioritised quick and secure electricity supply.

China has lots of coal and can at a push supplement it from Australia. They don't have a lot of gas and are heavily reliant on their neighbours.

Coal plants have quick payback and can be quickly decommissioned too, compared to alternatives.

It's not great, but people need power 24/7 and renewables just can't guarantee that at scale.

I would have thought the complete opposite. More wealth, education etc. = less kids.

I hate to labour the point, but you're not seeing it (in China at least) because you're not looking. Western news only focuses on China regarding Uighur Muslims, Taiwan, China's military or COVID. Negative news stories.

How often do you see positive news stories from a country with a population x4 of USA?

Here's one

“China’s already a leader in so many parts of the decarbonization effort,” said Norman Waite, energy finance analyst at the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis (IEEFA).

“They’re either leading or right in the pack with everybody else in the efforts to decarbonize. It’s not a one- or two-company effort. This is a bunch of companies who are pressing forward,” he said.

I would almost guarantee that China will reach its emissions targets. The US, Germany and France will make excuses for decades to come.

In terms of electrification of transport, they are leagues ahead of Europe and the US. BEV sales in China are 30% of the market in 2022. Ireland is 13% and we think we're great.

Maybe eventually, but when you're in the midst of a crisis caused by global warming, time is the one thing you don't have. More education for women is absolutely a help, but heck even in Ireland it was a challenge up till not too long ago, due to the domination of the criminal enterprise known as the RCC. Any country where religions dominate will be bad for educating women.

A lot of what we are being asked to do is driven as much by industry as any particular concern for the climate. There's money to be made in energy and distributing it and in how it's used. It's as much about churning the market as anything else, so in this case Green industrialists can turn a few bob and get rich, as opposed to oil producers. And what happens when a new technological solution comes along? You guessed it, churn the market again and we'll see all these monstrous wind machines and vast banks of solar arrays left to scar the landscape as the boyos who built them will have moved on and the cost of deconstruction will be too high. Not too far from here up in the Comeraghs, there are the rusting remains of TV transmitters needed to distribute terrestrial TV signals in the 1980s. TDs got elected on the back of putting them up in Donegal in TC deflector campaigns. Technology moves on and they became redundant, but none of those involved in inflicting these eyesores have bothered to remove them. And don't me started on solar panels manufactured using dirty fuel sources in China, transported around the world, all so we can massage our green consciences.