"Green" policies are destroying this country

Good news but it is too late and it is not going to save Germany. Also, the gas storage tanks being filled for 95% might look good but even a 100% would only be roughly 20% of their total need this winter ( caveat: that 20% is guess work but you get the idea).The comments about the grid are just the electricity part and industry needs fossil fuels.And they wont be able to support both their main industry AND their citizens. They would need fully operational nuclear power plants to cover most the loss. Are they ready? Is the question. i dont think so but they might be at the hard edge of winter in january if they move quick although that is my own speculation. The recession and inflation is here and they are living on current stock like every other country. It is going to get bad real quick..

The farce that is retrofitting goes on. The government/SEAI have tightened up the grant schemes to largely eliminate the option for contractors to claim the grants directly and not have homeowners having to stump up the full costs up front. They literally want people to get into huge debt for these retrofits. Contractors are making a killing also by just increasing prices and pocketing the grant and more. The solar panel and inverter hardware costs are very reasonable when bought directly but suddenly become exhoribantly expensive once the grants/contractors get involved. It really is a complete mess.

You havent a clue,have you? you need to get out and engage in real world activity to get an idea of the costs involved in retrofitting.I am going to help you by setting you a little exercise called "price the retro" all you have to do is engage with one of the ELEVEN registered OSS'S to price a basic deep retrofit your typical 1200 sq ft Irish semi.List of basic items beloW.

1.external wrap/insulation to house.

2.installation of heat pump and replacement of plumbing system.

2.replacement of 10 windows, 1 front door,1back door and 1 set of patio doors to triple glazed spec.

4.removal of existing floor and installation of insulation as per regs.Reinstate floor.

5.all electrical works to bring house to code.

6.installation of MHRV(Ventilation)to dwelling

7.all ancillary works needed to be done to make good after construction.(plastering, painting,tiling, carpentry)

8.removal of all construction waste and redoing landscaping.

Dont forget the 10% fee to the OSS and the 600e consultation fee to see if you're suitable to avail of their service.😀

Now thats the basic stuff that needs to be done for the deep retrofit, even the green guru Duncan Stewart estimated it at 100k plus, your lack of knowledge in this area(and others) is embarrassing.

Is that all you could come with,its near average ,but adjust as needed, 3 front windows, 1 front door, 3 rear windows ,1 patio door, 2 gable end windows and 1 gable side/back door,also threw in 2 velux for good measure( alot of older houses requiring retrofitting would have attic converted).Maybe leave your nest, go outside,wander around your abode and count the windows and doors, hard to get a feel for this stuff when you inside all day.

Does anyone have a link to the ESB and eirgrud net zero 2040 docs that were posted earlier in the thread.

I tried using the search function but then realised it's about as useful as a chocolate teapot.

Thank you. I was searching for that one and I believe there was another one from the ESB. appreciate that.

Cheers Pa, much appreciated.

why doesnt wind work, and by any chance do alternatives such as fossil fuels and nuclear also receive state supports and subsidies in order to be?

...some Einstein's around here! all the research and investment interests must be wrong so, get over it folks, off shore wind is currently our only real option at the moment, after that its nuclear, but shur best of luck with that one!

The investment interests are interested in making money. The governments have sold out their electorates by subsidising renewables to the point they are gold mines. Without the subsidies there wouldn't be any wind farms or solar farms, because they are fundamentally uneconomic.

Have a look at that ESB video linked to above. In it there is a mention of floating offshore wind being seen as an essential component of their plan. They say they need 30 GW of offshore wind to make zero happen. Let's say that half that is from floating. Norway is just now building an 88 MW floating offshore wind farm, and turbine shaggers are bragging that it will be 40% cheaper than the previous Hywind off Scotland.

Sounds amazing, but it still works out to be costing about €10.5 Billion per GW. Nuclear costs €3.95 Billion per GW. So 15 GW of floating offshore wind would cost €157.5 Billion. To generate that with nuclear would be about €59.2 Billion.

The Irish governments non-nuclear policy is a form of insanity, it really is.

I think that photo is montage of two photos, one with the foreground and one with the background, I don't remember the turbines been that big when viewed from the shore

That hydrogen presentation is just a pile of goo - throw a bunch of concepts and buzzwords into a blender and press go for 30 minutes and see what falls out; loads of talk about exports and subsidies, complete rubbish at this stage