General British politics discussion thread

Umm, are we arguing the suitability of a government where the health minister is o.k. with giving unprescribed expired antibiotics to acquaintances? It's not what was done - Therese Coffey seems very unqualified for her brief - but that this government thought she was just fine for the job.

What she did isn't being debated; that she did it, and now is in charge of the health service, is the concern.

What I love about all this is that the financial markets, who the Tories revere, have basically told Tufton St that they are clueless and to STFU.

I hope that's remembered the next time the BBC bring the IEA onto Question Time (or any other programme) for one of their regular appearances.

Practically everything since Brexit seems to involve experts reaffirming the stupidity of the British government stance of calling out the trustworthiness of experts and trying to make them enemies of the people.

Seems the experts are certainly having the last laugh.

He is absolutely livid and 100% correct. I wish Sturgeon would do the same to Ross in the Scottish Parliament but unfortunately Labours man in Scotland sides with the Tories

A decent man, and one who still has Socialist ideas, an outlier in the UK Labour Party in recent years, very different from the Scottish and UK leaders.

She was pretty embarrassing in the HoC yesterday but then most are at present.

Did she jump or was she pushed (supposedly at the behest of Hunt).

Apparently she's quit over an 'honest mistake'. What, like supporting Truss in the election?

I doubt it's the Bravery song!

Sharing confidential information over a private phone....

Braverman not a serious politician or person.

She rose so high, and Patel before her, because of the hard right steerage of British politics in general, over the past decade and a bit.

I had cause, in an online debate elsewhere, to search for a comparison of current Tory policies about immigration and asylum, with yesteryear’s BNP proposals and aspirations. I didn’t find that comparison, but I did find a compendium of their 2005 manifesto wherein, in relation to immigration and asylum-

The British National Party is proposing strict new laws regarding the asylum and immigration policies in the Great Britain. The BNP wants to stop the large influx of immigrants into Great Britain. They also believe that because of the UN convention on Refugees (1951), which mandates that immigrants must seek refuge in the nearest safe country, that immigrants are not Britain’s responsibility and have no right to seek refuge in Great Britain (http://www.bnp.org.uk/candidate2005/manifesto/manifesto2005.pdf, 2/27/07). Some of their policies include, increasing funding for existing border controls, stopping all immigration to Great Britain from places like Africa, Asia, South America, and China that have unlimited numbers of immigrants, and deporting all fake asylum seekers and immigrants with criminal backgrounds (http://www.bnp.org.uk/candidates2005/manifesto/manifesto2005.pdf, 2/27/07). Another program that we would like to set up is voluntary resettlement, where financial incentives are provided to people that return to their countries of origin (http://www.bnp.org.uk/candidates2005/manifesto/manifesto2005.pdf, 2/27/07). The BNP also intends to establish a registration program for all immigrants. There will be two phases, the first is Voluntary Registration in which illegal immigrants, who are skilled laborers, will declare their status and be allowed to stay until a British citizen is trained to replace them. Then the illegal immigrants will be given free flights back to their home country. The second phase is called Assisted Registration, where illegal immigrants who do not register will be arrested by the Ministry for National Border Security and will be held in custody until they are deported (http://www.bnp.org.uk/candidates2005/manifesto/manifesto2005.pdf, 2/27/07).

Now I may well be wrong, this is just off-the-cuff…but I think the 2022 Tories have actually delivered that 2005 BNP manifesto.

Sounds like something you'd see in the Reichstag in 1932.

Not surprisingly.