General British politics discussion thread

Coffey and Mog will have to be sacked.

Two names linked with this pushing and shoving behaviour.

This could end up in an election if Tories aren't careful.

Stop threatening to improve everybody’s life like that!

Already in with Nazi comparison.

Seems her resignation was at the very least 'Unconditional'...

You really could not make it up what is happening in British politics at the moment lol. It really is a sh-it show full of clowns lol.

Lizz Trusses days are numbered. She will be lucky to make it to 60 days in Number 10.

Shapps is a disaster, he will probably have a silly video published of himself next to a map of Rwanda (if the Tories last that long)

And now theyve reversed the decision to remove the whip. Just more and more chaos

Question, are there ministerial pensions in the UK like there are in Ireland, that is former ministers get additional money over a regular TD/MP pension, so the likes of Javid, Kwarteng, Braverman etc who were barely in the seat before resigning/sacked would be entitled to more money down the line? The constant merry-go-round of ministers would make it seem that everyone is getting a go to pump up their pension pot.

Did the government defeat the Labour motion n Fracking yesterday? With all the chaos I am struggling to find the actual result.

Yes they did and thus broke their manifesto promise

Not really because now they can hang it over every tory that the went back on the 2019 manifesto and are pro fracking. Its a win either way for Labour. No.10 are the ones who turned it into a confidence motion which is what made it such a **** show which became just another win for Labour.

Yes, there are ministerial pensions in the UK. The deal is this:

For each year you serve as a minister, you get a pension entitlement equal to 1.775% of the salary of your office. It is payable from the state pension age, or later age at which you leave office, and it'll be based on the ministerial salary at that date. So, let's say you serve ten years as a minister and your pension age is 65, you are entitled to a pension from age 65 equal to 17.75% of the ministerial salary that is payable to whoever is in office when you reach age 65. After that, it does up every year in line with inflation (not in line with salary increases for ministers).

Somebody who only serves as a minister for, say, a month does get a pension entitlement, but it's tiny - one twelfth of 1.775% of salary.

The deal is better for a retired Prime Minister. They get a ministerial pension under the above arrangements plus, even before they reach pension age, they can claim an allowance of up to GBP115,000 per year for “necessary office and secretarial costs arising from fulfilling public duties”. This is payable regardless of how long you have served as prime minister. But you can't just claim the money and trouser it; it does have to be a reimbursement for costs incurred in some kind of public service. So it covers things like diary support, police protection on public visits*, correspondence, staffing at public visits, support to charitable work, social media platforms and managing and maintaining ex-PMs office.

* [Yes, ex-Prime Ministers have to reimburse the police for the costs of providing additional police cover on public visits.]

Its perfect for Labour. They forced 300+ Tories to publicly back something many of them and their constituents are against.

The sht show it created is a victory for Labour.