General British politics discussion thread

For what it's worth a few have come out already in support - Fabricant, Andrea Jenkyns, James Duddridge, Brendan Clarke-Smyth, Marco Longhi (whoever the fcuk that is). Nads is obviously a given.

If that snowballs in any way towards 30/40/50 then it becomes tough to keep him out of the contest and he suddenly looks viable.

The goat rodeo continues. I think Labour would have a field day if Johnson was re-elected.

You might as well have flushed it down the toilet, the lunatics are running the asylum over there but even the Tories aren’t dumb enough to bring Boris back, (i think).

After the massive walkout under Johnson, how could those Tories support him with a straight face?

He would need to find 100 MPs made up of the loyal useful idiots (Fabricant, Dorries, etc.) who don't care about being tarnished by him and unassuming backbenchers who haven't too publicly expressed themselves on the matter and would have plausable deniability regarding their previus support or lack thereof.

Truss' spell was a disaster but let's not forget how the Tories were lining up to resign from their positions under Johnson. Tory lifers might not care but floating voters should still remember and hold them accountable if they now do a u-turn (which people will have had enough of under Truss).

Johnson running would be interesting. I think there are enough people who would be glad to see him come back and see him as 'safe hands' after Truss. However, it would surely be a move that'd hammer home the fact that the Tories are only interested in power and that should be enough to keep floating voters away. It would surely do untold damage to the Tories.

I would love to see a general election called but I can see the Tories trying to hold on to power until the next one. They know they'll get hammered in an election tomorrow. They are just focused on damage limitation and trying to recover as much as possible in what's left of their term.

On the other hand, I'd almost like to see them stick it out because whoever controls the purse strings in the UK is going to be doing a thankless job for the next few years.

C'mon let's be real here, it's not going to be Johnson - they're just after getting rid of him, after much, much controversy and endless infighting.

Boris is very charismatic, personable and great fun. That's partly how he got his landslide. Bizarre if they take him back but entirely possible, depending on who else wants the gig bad enough. Would Sunak at this stage, second choice and after a big screw up, I don't know? Who else wants it, knowing it could all blow up again very quickly... Answer: Boris!

Stepping up to the Premiership is the proverbial poison chalice, because the incumbent will likely still be leading the Conservative party come the next GE, and the outcome of that one for them, is pretty much written already.

Add the unprecedented set of fast-coalescing crises on top of it, the spiralling and crystallising consequence of Johnson’s choice of Brexit first among those for the British economy, to say nothing of the cost of living crisis, budgetary check mates, crippling mortgage costs freshly piled on ahead for millions upon millions, (…)

A GE now, looks more of a blessing for the Tories every passing day.

The optics of revealing the next chapter of this horror show on Halloween are brilliant.

This sounds very plausible and an accurate reflection of where the Tories are tonight:

Boris hits 50 MPs, 50 to go.

And Lord Shelburne, later the Marquess of Lansdowne (did his family own some property in Ballsbridge, perhaps?) was Irish. Birth name Petty. First Irish born prime minister of Britain.

Strangely absent from most Irish biographies.