BoJo banished - Liz Truss down. Is Rishi next for the toaster? **threadbans in OP**

If Boris does throw his hat into the ring it will solidify how utterly shameless and repugnant he is.

Our friend is back I see. We never did find out why he keeps referring to GEs as FEs

True.

At times you can laugh at the carry on across the water but the carry on last night and today, and the fact that boris Johnson of all people is being talked about again as being in the frame to become PM again just shows how much the uk has fallen. It’s kind of sad really given how much they build themselves up yet it’s just a shambles of a system which has been shown up in the past three months or so.

Granting that the first-past-the-post electoral system is an abomination -it is absurd in my view that members would have a decisive say -in fact any say , in choosing a PM. They have had their input together with the whole electorate in the general election. Representative democracy means that the elected MPs represent the generality of those who wish a particular party grouping to exercise power.

The MPs interact with the candidates up close in a parliamentary and administrative setting. No one is better placed to assess the calibre of potential leaders than the MPs. Members have far too narrow a focus to make an intelligent choice . Their choice of a hollow nonentity like the hapless Truss clearly shows this. Should not be allowed to happen again.

Anyone even mentioning the possibility of Johnson returning must be borderline moronic.

I don't get it, the representatives picked sunak, the non representative collection of 300k members picked truss. Who could have ever imagined that this non democratic process would fall apart?! What a shocker!

She basically just lied and won and now they will implement his policy. It's absolutely ridiculous, he must have been getting above his station. Needed taking down a peg.

When is Rory stewart coming back to find the soul of the party?

It's not a pension; it's an allowance for costs incurred in performing public duties. In order to claim it, you do actually have to perform the duties and incur the costs. It covers things like running an office, paying advisers, transport/security for events you attend, that kind of thing. It's a soft deal, but you can't actually trouser the cash.

There is a separate pension for people who have served as prime minister (or any other kind of minister). It's related to length of service, so the amount of pension that Truss will qualify for for serving as PM for, what, seven weeks will be tiny. She'll also get pension for her service as Foreign Secretary, Justice Secretary. etc; these will be bigger because she was in office longer, but still not very big. Basically, a ministerial pension in the UK is 1.775% of salary for each year of service. Truss has been in one ministerial office or another for about 10 years, so she'll get about 17.75% of a ministerial salary by way of pension (on top of her MP's pension). None of these pensions will be paid until she reaches age 67, which won't be for another 20 years.

In the meantime, she'll have to struggle by on an MP's salary, assuming she remains in the Commons, and a free office and secretarial support, etc.

Boris is flying back from a Carribbean holiday to retake No 10.

That line pretty much sums up Johnsons career and British politics at the moment.

I'd rather have the Candyman over.

I can't wait to see Charlie and Bojo shaking hands! It should be a life lesson to any Frank Grimes out there, lifes a game and there are no rules! 😂