Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

Perhaps you thought this was a logical rebuttal but I fail to see how it refutes the empirical demonstration from history that Ireland can support (at least) 8.5 million human souls and therefore cannot logically be "full?" Indeed the world population was much smaller then, and this amounted to Ireland carrying a significantly larger percentage of the human race (as well as a higher total headcount) - 1.2 Bn vs 8 Bn soils now.

Ireland therefore was housing 0.7% of the human race, vs. 0.06% today (not super relevant, but interesting).

I have to say I'm getting really tired of the Irish political systems obsession with "what will the neighbours think". Often at the cost of the people actually living here.

Every other country, big or small seems to be able to operate in its own interests, and come up with its own policies. Not Ireland though.

Is this a serious response. For most people it goes without saying that life has changed considerably since famine times.

Right now people who are trying to buy or rent a home are finding it almost impossible because of a lack of supply. The healthcare system both hospital based and community based are on their knees, people are finding they can’t even get a GP no mind a GP appointment in many parts of the country. Winter blackouts are being discussed in media as we appear to be at our limits with electricity generation. Some places have a shortage in school places. These are just a couple of the main examples

Anyone with common sense can tell you that housing, healthcare and utility infrastructure aren’t things that can be solved quickly or easily. Population increases require careful planning to get it right for everyone.

Housing can go from boom to bust in months. It was that long ago we were bulldozing housing estates. Some of the problem with our housing market is hyperventilating about it. Right now it's a sellers market with 10s of 1000s properties for sale.

We import the majority of our energy.

We are undersubscribed in our schools, although their is pressure areas. But nationally 10s of 1000s of free places.

Our health service has been lacking for decades, that said it's no where near as bad as portrayed.

We are a prosperous safe country, with stable governance whose problems are not unique to this island, whatever the perpetual scaremongers would like you to believe. I imagine many of them have never left their county, let alone country.

So where do suggest we place all the refugees currently in direct provision as well as 48000 Ukrainians as well as all those seeking protection? Build more houses for them?

Priority should be given for people fleeing actual war zones. Ukraine should be high up that list.

At the rate we are going mud huts and tenements will be back in vogue in no time.

Source?

The guff I already addressed: Ireland is plenty more technologically advanced than thatched houses now. People have indoor plumbing light and heat etc.

Just last year Ireland had the 10th most vacant homes in the world. https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/ireland-has-10th-highest-rate-of-vacant-homes-in-the-world-study-finds-1.4709476

"Mud huts" get your grips people.

You're seeing it in the diametrically-opposite way: Life expectancy is up, disease is down, dirt hoveling is non existent, healthcare exists and never, amazingly, achieves a perfect state. There is also the globalized economy now, "mass starvation and ruin" risk null to zero, thank your trading partners in the UN, EU and NATO.

Delusional stuff. If there are so many vacant homes how come all over the country folks are desperate for accommodation. And that they are gerrymandering accommodation whatever way they can for the influx right now.

That article's bullshit figures not believable in the slightest.

But you're taking the population figure from 1845 and grafting it to the living standards of 2022.

Ireland has supported 8.5 Million in dire poverty. It has barely supported 6 Million to a high living standard.

It has not supported 8.5 Million to a high living standard ever.

Haha, we’ve better apply for planning permission to extend the island so ;) 😳

Our health service is every bit as bad as portrayed it is not scaremongering. We don’t have enough healthcare staff, we don’t have enough beds and our waiting lists have never been as long. A&E wait times are higher then they were a few years ago. Chronic shortages of GP’s. Unless it’s an emergency in many cases you will be waiting over a year for an operation/procedure if your lucky.

Hyperventilating about the housing market….this can’t be for real. Tell that to those living in hotels because there is nowhere else to house them. Housing issues in this country is a crisis. Look at quantity and price of what is available to rent. Then while renting try to save for a deposit for a house. Our local community Facebook page constantly has posts from people desperately looking for accommodation. Friends, family and colleagues are saying same thing about their areas. Young people who want to move out are living at home with their parents.

Nobody wants to see people from a war torn country with no where to go. Resources such as shelter are limited. However are we at the point where we look after who we have instead of stretching what we have out even further to the point where people are in tents for the winter.