Attempting to destroy famous paintings because fossil fuels

I’ve literally seen pigeons get it quicker than you mate. I mean you literally cannot get past the train of thought that if I believe these protesters are morons I can only be a climate change denier, you literally cannot get that a person could hold both of those thoughts simultaneously.

I don’t deny climate change, I agree with all the science and all the scientific research in to it. I’ve said this to you numerous times but I know it’s a hard concept for you the very idea that you can believe in something but also believe some other people claiming to believe it are utter morons. Your like a football fan who cant see how one of your players can do anything wrong! Most people tend to grow out of that.

I’m not that dumb or naive enough to believe that everyone who does everything in the name of climate change is in it because they so believe in climate change, you obviously are, hence your defence of these morons.

The moronic attention seeking media likes actions of the protestors are what’s focusing the attention, nothing else, literally they have changed no one’s mind, not one single person even wavering towards climate change issues looked at these attention whores and found e themselves going, yeah now I get it!

Attention seeking morons who do nothing but take the attention away from the real people making real action happen but hey theyre on your team so “Good for you, you attention seeking morons” who have literally achieved nothing only alienating more people away from the issues at hand, you don’t need an expert to tell you that, just a bit of cop on!

Yours seems to be an interesting position, you believe that we are destroying the planet for future generations - but you disagree with the actions of the protesters

what do you suggest should be done (instead) to stop the destruction of the planet by our use of fossil fuels for future generations ?

The reality is the protesters posed a question and people have answered it.

They basically asked us are we going to be more outraged by a painting being damaged than the planet and even humanity being in danger. We’ve clearly said Yes.

The nay sayers can laugh at them and belittle them all they want but the absolute fact is that we are pumping an insane amount of carbon into the atmosphere and every warning that has been given is now coming to pass. Its coming to pass quicker than expected, and what’s even scarier is humans have clearly shown that until the sh1t absolutely hits the fan we’re not going to do anything that reflects the scale of the crisis.

Anyone who is reading this post has benefited from scientific research and discovery. The fact that human emitting green house gases is causing global warming is not only being scientifically demonstrated and measured now, but is also allowing scientists to predict where we’re headed.

The other fact is that wildlife has declined by 70% in the last 50 years. If that does not alarm people then we are screwed.

There is one thing I’ll agree with, they are likely doing it for themselves, for the attention, for the sense of belonging they have the group they are in, whatever. But honestly, who cares? That’s certainly no reason to diminish the point.

Long may it continue because none of the rest of us give a damn. And we probably won’t in our life times, maybe a slight bit of guilt when we see how hard our grandkids lives have become due to mass inward migration, sky high living costs (what we have now will look cheap), sporadic food shortages, spending all their money on flood repairs… lack of simple things like enjoying a beach unless you can catch it for 15 mins when the tide is totally out.

Sure, it’s not as dramatic as the world ending, if anything it’s worse because it’s the proverbial frog in the warm water that is slowly boiling.

We should be applauding them and ashamed we are not out there protesting.

Some moron drove across 3 lanes and killed that woman.

How is my partners profession making me a hypocrite?

You must be absolutely disgusted at the thousands of deaths directly attributable to the tories defunding of the NHS as well as the thousands suffering and dying as a results of the present effects of climate change .and you must not be able to sleep thinking of the impending death and destruction stemming from climate change .

what do you suggest should be done instead in order to stop the death and suffering caused now and in the future by climate change ?

or are you a climate change denier?

I wanted to give him an opportunity to suggest solutions otherwise he may be accused of

HYPOCRISY

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,41&q=biodegradable+lubricants

You're right. Because fossil fuel based lubricant might need to be used for wind farms the whole thing is a total sham and we should carry on business as usual.

Some things needs to go full circle.

People generally do not realize that current standard of living and prosperity is here because of cheap energy (fossil fuels). People also got lazy as most of the stuff is plentiful and readily available like just a click away...

You see, people in developing countries do have quite different priorities so it is easy to see where we are going with all this. West is going to crumble, we are doing it ourselves while they are starting to utilize cheap energy from fossil fuels and see their living standards and economy to rise.

Eventually we will start to come back out of misery we are creating right now and start to develop again...

Btw, planet will be OK.

You're the one complaining about how are we going to lubricate the wind farms - it was presumed you had already talked yourself past this stage by now, had already determined there would be wind turbines and now it was simply a matter of lubricating them.

Is that what we're discussing? Do you have a link?

lol but actually. The brand does also transport petrochemicals:

I hope that people around the western world and everywhere else are discussing this activism and becoming more aware that we are destroying this planet for millions now suffering and millions more of future generations because of our use of fossil fuels

These people are like the Red Army Faction group in the 70s.

Well heeled kids on an ideological mission and continuing to escalate, it will move up to targeting pipelines, people, infrastructure with gun and bomb.

As one critic of the Red Army Faction said in the 70s, they spoke about fighting Nazism but there they were on an Israeli plane, separating Jews from non Jews.

I'm sure heads of coal plants all across China are pausing and considered if they should continue with their pollution upon hearing of people throwing mashed potatoes over a painting in Germany.

I presume you're in favour of Europe no longer doing business with China due to their polluting ways? Their country is a factory for countries like Ireland.

I'd be all in favour of it, I don't think you would when you realise how much more expensive it made all the useless tat we fill our houses with.

obviously they have a bigger population therefore they produce more carbon ffs

per capita Ireland pollute more than a Chinese person

why is it up to the greens, the 2% party to decide whether we have nuclear or not? why aren't SF pushing it for the next election? why haven't FF/FG sorted it yet? how the f**k can you pin that on the greens who have had a smidgeon of power twice in the history of the state?

Did you ever stop and think that maybe some people on the thread just don't like seeing people defacing artwork across the world's museums?

This'll be like the Occupy Movement and the Greta fad, give it a few months and the circus will have moved on.

what? what has that got to do with us having nuclear power or not?

I'm asking how you can blame the Greens in Ireland for no nuclear power when they have had almost no influence on anything since the foundation of the state. Why aren't you blaming FF/FG, or SF soon enough?

Our heroes are spraying up oil lobbyists now.

He looks pretty old for a young middle class kid trying to find a cause to protest for just for the sake of it.