New Boston virus (lab developed super-COVID)

Seriously, are you capable of thinking for yourself? Your words, Covid was the cause of 30 deaths per week during the summer months.....absolute nuttery...if you tested everyone who dies for STDs you could probably claim they were taking lives....all your graph is showing us that there was very little excess death over the two years....Do you still believe covid took over 7,000 lives in this country? Can you confirm that for us please? How can someone so smug be so easily lead by bureaucrats at the same time...it's really amazing to see!!! Still wearing a mask ya?

We won't have official death stats in this country for the last 6 months for some time, we may get preliminary data toward the end of the year. How could I produce evidence beyond what I am told by people who work in the industry?

Can you confirm if you believe Covid took over 7,000 lives in this country please?

"Excess mortality is at about 50% of reported deaths in Ireland since the start of the pandemic"!!!! That is what you just said.

That is complete gibberish. It doesn't make any sense. You get very slippery when you are asked a direct question.

Now, stop trying to deflect, because you have accused me of believing in "bizarre theories" (you haven't been able to name one), and please tell us, do you think Covid took over 7,000 lives in this country?

So you do believe that 8,000 lives were taken by Covid, the official narrative that we are all familiar with, thank you for eventually answering the question.

But we didn't see 8,000 extra deaths did we...we didn't see anywhere near that.

Being rational doesn't mean you can quote facts, being rational means you can understand what facts are relevant.

Why would you believe that 8,000 figure when the facts suggest it is completely inflated.

We didn't see 8,000 extra deaths on top of what is normal, so you are in no position to be accusing anyone of lying, or believing "bizarre theories" or telling anyone to "kindly **** off"...and remember, it was you who posted a sniping post on this thread.

It is important, because if you believe that 8,000 people lost their lives during the pandemic due to Covid, you are much likelier to believe that the two years of severe restrictions didn't have any negative impact on the health of the population, you are likely to believe that the actions of our Government were justified, and you did, you were a constant presence on here, using your particular "tone" belittling anyone who disagreed with you, you are still doing that today!

When, it is clear to many, the seriousness of the pandemic was completely overblown and the negative impact of those severe restrictions are being completely ignored.

*we all know that this virus was a very nasty infection for some, very mild for others, so I don't want to be accused of denying the seriousness of the virus.

Engage honestly, says the man who accused me of believing in "bizarre theories" and still hasn't named one!!

You really need to work on your ability to interpret data, rubbish in, rubbish out!! The published data from our institutions and health bureaucrats are frequently inaccurate rendering them completely useless to analyse. We included healthy people in our Covid infection figures for instance, completely bonkers stuff!!!

I don't have any opinion on the data in this study, as I have said to you before, gain of function research and Covid are very hot topics and it is very difficult to find trustworthy information. I don't trust health bureaucrats given the last three years, could they take a virus and work on it a lab to improve it's ability to infect and do damage in individuals? At least we know that somebody in a lab is manipulating a Covid virus, we can all agree on that!

Do you even hear yourself????

You said this..."I think that answer says it all. "I don't trust the data because it doesn't say what I want and people shouldn't study the virus because reasons""....., I explained why I don't trust the data, do you trust data you know to be leaky/inaccurate? What kind of an idiot does?

This is your understanding of data (you posted this a short time ago) "Excess mortality is at about 50% of reported deaths in Ireland since the start of the pandemic"!!!! That is what you said...now this is not a person who has any kind of grasp on numbers or data, you are great at getting your hands on numbers, you don't seem to understand how meaningless most of them are!!

We know the death figures were grossly inflated.

We know the case numbers were inaccurate. We were testing 10,000s people per week, including people who weren't sick.

We know the hospitalization numbers were also inflated. They included people who were infected while they were in hospital, and people who went to hospital for a health issue and tested positive on the way in.

That is what we know, we also know the projections and modelling were off the charts inaccurate more often than not..

So, forgive me if I don't gobble up all the nonsense health bureaucrats/politicians/media provide us without questioning any of it!

You are asking me for data we won't get until next year. When it arrives, I'll break it down into digestible chunks for you, you seem to get overwhelmed easily.

Yes you’re missing denial of gain of function research and it’s very public, and worldwide scientific concern about it’s risks.

Also missing heads in sand re excess deaths. But nothing to see here now… it’s ALL conspiracy theories and anti-vaxx misinformation spread.

Your work is done.

Gain of function research has been going on for years and relatively identifiable, none to very few in the field believe SARS-COV2 was from GoF because the changes made are currently beyond our technology. (note, this doesn't mean it wasn't a lab leak as it could have been an animal in captivity that caused it to spread across species).

These articles pop up in various tabloids over the years, "super anthrax" etc, the daily mail is taking advantage of the gullible with this one (the clue should be the paper published detailing their findings in detail).

But does every thread have to devolve to conspiracy theories these days? (when there is a whole forum for them).

Whilst its open to debate how many covid killed so far,I dont think its time to say "it's all over", tell that to those experiencing "long covid" or is that all a myth too? I really don't think it is (personal experience I won't go into here), i think that's the real point of concern longer term as re-infections mount.

If this thing was brewed in a lab, presumably in Wuhan, China, what is their zero-covid policy telling us?

I strongly suspect we will start to see life expectancies dropping across many countries in the coming years which is going to be hard to explain away, time will tell.