Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022 - Read OP

It isn't about being derogatory, it is about inciting hatred. defamation is totally separate.

Ever notice how people tend to use the insults that best describe their own faults? Liars are fond of calling other people liars, cowards will call others cowards, Pricks will call other people pricks.

I myself rarely use the term "liar" because I pretty much never lie. I do use the term "inconsiderate asshole" when on the road and yet another black Audi decides he can't be arsed following the rules because I have that tendency myself.

I would never call anyone a hateful **** Boggles, but I find it interesting that you do.

I'm sure you have ALL the right political opinions though 😄

This is not about hatred of transgenders, its about compelling others to literally deny objective reality.

If you ask me to respect your pronouns I'll probably do it, I don't want to be hurtful. If you demand that I do it, I'll say no, you don't have that right to demand I address you a certain way, no more than I can compel you to address me as "Your majesty". When you try to use the legal system of the land to compel me on pain of fines or imprisonment to address you a certain way then its a firm "Hell no!"

"How does it affect your life in any way?".

Easy, you're compelling me to lie. To deny objective reality to spare someones feelings. And I don't like to lie.

I wouldn't go around telling 6 year olds there's no santa, but if the government could put me in prison for denying his existence, I'd be forced to KNOWINGLY LIE in certain situations or be deprived of my liberty. That's how it would affect my life. I could have my life destroyed for refusing to participate in someone elses fantasy?

If you're born with XY chromosomes you're a man, if you're born with XX chromosomes you're a woman. How could something thats factually and biologically true be hate speech? Unless reality itself is hateful?

If you hate the reality of your existence because of the gender you were born as that's a YOU problem. Not a me problem, or a societal problem. Live your life and leave the rest of us out of it.

what did the police report say?

We allow people in who destroy their documentation, we deport a tiny amount of people and we have a minister promising people accommodation.

If you want to show me links to measures we have in place that contradict that then please go ahead.

Would you care to address any points in the post?

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What about those with xxy and xyy chromosomes?

And that is where you are wrong. There is more than two Genders. Maybe you should look up the definition of Gender.

There is only three sexs yes,

There is male female and intersex.

But there is more than three genders.

How many genders are there in world?

There are many different gender identities, including male, female, transgender, gender neutral, non-binary, agender, pangender, genderqueer, two-spirit, third gender, and all, none or a combination of these.

As for these new laws good about time. I am delighted.

I read the article you linked yet I'm wondering if we read the same article.

here is some snippets from your article.

The complainant went off on one and no one supported her. Doesn't that sound like a her problem?

Then

So the only actual evidence seen by the author of the article is a video where the complainant who by her own words was supported by no one is shown being accused of threats of violence.

But your hot take Fandy is she was totally in the right despite the accusations of violence committed by Kate and Kate being supported by no one.

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read the article

Can't argue about the lack of policing the roads. But being prosecuted for hate speech will be for those on the extreme end of things, not some guy on a random forum saying I only believe in 2 genders.

Ha ha ...what an interpretation!!

You can see how Irish people are so subservient, no wonder our politicians and institutions abuse us so much, you don't need to know what the law contains to know that we suffer from Institutional abuses all the time!!! (Endemic Political Corruption, Banking Crisis, Church Sex Abuse Scandals) you want to give these people more power!! If any young people are reading this, get out of here, find a country where they don't police speech!!

You don't need to be charged with anything to be arrested. They're two different things. Being arrested is simply being held by the police, and can be done merely under the suspicion of committing an offence. There were allegations of harassments made to the police and according to the article, and it certainly appears - even from the one-sided story that the article gives us from her perspective alone - that she was not co-operative with the police. An arrest under those circumstances wouldn't be unusual. They even put the handcuffs on her so loosely that they were almost falling off her.

Harassing someone and telling them that they have to leave a place that they have a perfect legal entitlement to be in, not to mention the explicit permission of the management of the place, is certainly causing trouble under any reasonable definition of the term.

And she didn't leave when asked. According to the article, she followed the bar staff out of the building, and continued to harass them as she did so.

It's quite telling that an article written entirely from her point of view that is supposed to be framing her as the victim in the situation can't help but cast her in such a bad light. I mean, exclaiming "I do not consent to men being in the women’s toilets" - aside from the bigoted and deliberate misgendering - is a ridiculous display of entitlement. She has no more power to decide who goes into the toilets than she does who sits beside her on a bus.