Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

Well - if Joe is mentally unwell, how sharp is Doocy to be completely owned by him?

What's that phrase MA and the crew are so fond of?

"Do as we say not as we do"

Sums it up perfectly alright.

Early voting is always good...

Anyone watch the Pennsylvania debate? I'm reading, on Reddit, that it was a serious struggle for Fetterman.

"He didn't just stumble over his words though, he was totally unable to communicate coherently at times"

Sounds like most of the Republican candidates. Would take a stroke victim over the likes of MTG any day.

how droll.

While indeed ‘twas droll, perhaps it would be better if I’d offered some context.

Obama’s exhibition of his oratory skills was always going to be a tough act to follow, but God damn, look what Democrats followed up with! The American people needed a leader who could display confidence, courage and strength, and what did they get?

A choice between being stuck with another four years of the fuzzy turd, and an old guy who Democrats hoped could be used like a ventriloquists dummy to appeal to the disenfranchised, disengaged minorities who have made it clear they want nothing to do with Democrats (important to note: they want nothing to do with Republicans either).

Appeals to being reasonable are not what the American people need to hear when America socially, politically and economically is the laughing stock of the Western world. A steady decline is not the kind of stability anyone wants, which appears to be all they’re getting from the current administration which promised to heal the rift in American partisan politics. So far just about all they’ve managed to do is… well, nothing really, to halt the decline or heal any rift. Don’t get me wrong, I like Biden, I just don’t think he has the necessary skills to do what his administration asked of the American people, because he doesn’t have their loyalty and respect, because they have no confidence in him as a leader, and so far, Biden hasn’t given them any reason to want to believe otherwise -

https://theconversation.com/amp/can-joe-biden-heal-the-united-states-political-experts-disagree-150519

You said it yourself - you’d take a stroke victim over the likes of MTG any day.

I wouldn’t, because it’s overlooking the fact that when the question was put to him about an allegation of not paying his taxes and he was asked how does he respond, he responded alright, with something, but it didn’t address the question he was asked, let alone provide anything resembling an explanation.

His lack of a coherent response has nothing to do with him having had a stroke, and more to do with the fact that he wished to avoid the question by responding with a non-explanation and then saying it hasn’t been an issue before! Just because it hasn’t been an issue before doesn’t mean it isn’t an issue now, and he failed to give an adequate explanation.

Having a stroke doesn’t turn anyone into a politician.

The first part referring to Obama’s oratory skills is subjective, yes; the second part referring to what America needed, not so much, precisely because they are the laughing stock of the Western world in which they were once regarded as a Superpower nation. The ha-ha from outside of America is a bit more Nelson-like than clever satirical observation by late night US comedians like Trevor Noah (I will miss him), given the unfortunate state of the US economy, society and politics.

It’s the standard his administration set for themselves - the article is dated before he took up office, and it was his asking of the American people to come together, to heal the rift. It’s not subjective, it’s easily observed from an objective standpoint that there is a rift in America which has never been healed, and setting out to do so was always going to be a monumental task, one which can only be achieved by stopping the decline first, then building back better, on a solid foundation. None of that is possible while people appear to be in greater despair, less inspired and more insecure than they were during the era of the Great Depression. It’s why I kinda admire Southerners positive outlook in spite of them legitimately being in deeper shìt than the people in Northern states.

You’re right that what you’re hearing is what’s the point of a second term, I’m not even sure what the point of the first one was, and I was hoping that given you know American politicians much better than I do, there might have been a candidate with the broad, bipartisan support that not just I hoped for, but the American people so desperately need. It’s true I can’t see them coming from either Republican or Democrat, which is a poor show for a country with a population of 330m people and nobody who is capable of leading them. That in itself is an indication of an impoverished Nation that really has me wondering just how bad do things need to get before they get better?

That’s a rhetorical question btw, I’m pretty sure nobody has any clear idea and they’re just hoping to get through the next day without incident or injury.

"but rather by their policies, ideas and actions."

Perfect - Fetterman it is then so!

“Dow futures jump 300 points after a better-than-expected GDP report! GDP grew at 2,6%, better than the 2.3% expected.”

Oh sheeeet.

The GOP are the party of the rift. While Biden's administration did try to get bipartisan consensus on things like Build Back Better, the GOP mobilized to install election deniers in an attempt to get the coup right the next time. It's the GOP that dove head first into the rift - and it worked well in the South (not sure who is more or less positive, having lived all over the US I'd say there's no clear majority, but Northerners seem to be more honest than Southerners at least, and less overtly racist.) The South hasn't gotten over losing the Civil War. Heck, TFG's merry band of terrorists succeeding in bringing the Confederate Flag to the capitol and defecated on the floors there. Robert E. Lee would've been happy to hear it.

We won't even go into racist gerrymandering in the South, to defend Congressional districts, the most draconian 'voter fraud' laws, assaults on women's health care and so on. Things would be better if the Electoral College were gone.

Anyway, you also said something about the country being in dire straits - based on what? Largest economy in the world (for now anyway?) Huge interest in it as a place to emigrate to? Sure, there's inflation - there's always inflation and it's a convenient stick to beat people with when you're the party in power. We'll note that there's no GOP plan to address it. Cut taxes to spike growth and borrow to make up deficits like Liz Truss? Nope - the answer from the GOP is 'trickle down' which doesn't work, and 'more deregulation' which is usually not what people really want, either.

Greater despair than the Great Depression? Where do you get this stuff? Huge income inequality, sure, and that's at the foot of both parties. Bar some party stepping up and doing the hard things to address that, oh heck, bar the Democratic party doing something about it, nothing will change. I know better than to expect the GOP to do anything.

And as for oratory skills, well, of the last 5 presidents (to Clinton), I'd say the Democratic POTUS's were way better than the GOP peers. GWB? TFG? The first one regularly fumbled and was a moron on camera. The latter was, well, something... exceptional. As in exceptionally awful as an orator. I still remember John Oliver putting the word Iran into an Iphone and pressing on the recommended replies and what came out sounding so much like a TFG speech.

Not difficult for the GOP at all. 72million of them voted for TFG in the 2020 race. If they are having difficulty supporting him, vote for someone else.

Yknow, don’t underestimate Putin’s ability to monkey the political situation up in the next 2 weeks