"Green" policies are destroying this country

First the Swedes and now the UK:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-27/uk-s-sunak-demotes-climate-ministers-opts-out-of-cop27-summit?srnd=premium-europe&leadSource=uverify%20wall

Yes i know. As i recall Greenpeace got their real shot in the arm in the early 70s. I could be wrong but most nuclear facilities were built in the 60s early 70s. After the hype of the disaster film w Jack Lemmon and 3 mile island a de facto moratorium was placed on nuclear by the west, especially after Chernabyl. I mean, everybody was against it. So was i. And nobody was fact checking.

Europe is turning: France,Sweden (and Greta T), now the UK, Germany will take longer but are facing a rapid existential crisis. I expect by february they will have turned as well. Then we can talk proper green in conjunction w oil and gas as transition fuels going nuclear..

Industry will still need fossil fuels but electricity will go nuclear.

But i think Europe needs to get behind it fast tracking procedures, investment funds, long term commitments so the private sector can jump on board and make everything more competative. Or have state companies running nuclear power plants like France. Or maybe both would be best..

@cnocbui

The other problem is the nuclear industry by and large wanting to go big, so you also have the issues that come with all civil engineering mega-projects. This is basically why I am in favour of SMRs rather than the likes of Hinkley Point C.

Underneath a short excerpt copy and pasted. Sorry, couldnt link.

Top Dems Urge Biden To Nationalize Oil & Gas Industry

Calls for Biden to socialize industry have moved quickly from fringe to mainstream

MICHAEL SHELLENBERGER

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Democratic U.S. Senate Candidate from Wisconsin Tom Nelson (left) and energy expert Jason Bordoff (right) are urging the Biden administration to nationalize U.S. oil and gas companies.

The energy crisis is worsening. The U.S. has fewer than 30 days of diesel and other distillate fuels, the lowest level since 1945. Supplies are so low that there will be shortages and price spikes within six months unless the U.S. enters recession, experts warn. In response, the Biden administration is releasing more oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. But the reserves are of crude oil, not refined oil products such as diesel. And the releases are stifling investment in future oil production. “People are depleting their emergency stocks,” warned Saudi Arabia’s energy minister earlier this week. “Losing emergency stocks may become painful in the months to come.”

In response, influential Democrats, including a leading U.S. Senate candidate, a former Department of Energy official, and an influential energy expert, are urging the U.S. government to socialize America’s oil and gas firms.

At a Houston conference last week, Jason Bordoff, Dean of Columbia University’s Climate School, called for the “nationalization” of oil and gas companies. “Government must take an active role in owning assets that will become stranded,” he said, “and plan to strand those assets.” By “strand” Bordoff meant “make financially worthless.” Bordoff made the point at least twice during the confrerence. Bordoff’s call shocked many in the audience. “Jason is smart, well-informed, and well-connected to the Biden Administration,” said someone who was at the conference, “so these comments are scary.”

The calls come on the heels of two other Democrat-led efforts to expand U.S. government control over oil and gas production. One is a piece of legislation called “NOPEC,” which passed the Senate Judiciary Committee in May. The bill would change U.S. antitrust law to revoke a policy of sovereign immunity, which protects OPEC+ members from lawsuits. If NOPEC became law, the U.S. attorney general could sue Saudi Arabia and other OPEC members in court. The result could be a disruption of global supplies of oil and other commodities if nations retaliated against the U.S.

The other is an effort led by Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen to cap the price of Russian oil sold on global markets, which I and many other experts have warned since June is unworkable, because China and India have said they would circumvent it, and could backfire, resulting in far higher oil prices. Last week, analysts with Rapidan Energy told the same Houston conference that the December 5 implementation of the Russian price cap could reduce global supplies of oil by 1.5 million barrels per day. Such an amount would create an oil price shock.

Earlier this month, Bordoff told the World Economic Forum, which has called for a “Great Reset” to quickly move from fossil fuels to renewables, that climate change required a “massive transition” that is “going to be messy, it’s going to be disruptive.” Said Bordoff, “I think part of the broader macro environment that's happening now is one of more disruptive change because of climate impacts, but also more disruptive change because of geopolitics coming out of the pandemic, coming out of this conflict, completely rethinking what the World Economic Forum is all about.”

Bordoff then sounded an even darker note..

I see the Green Lord Mayor of Dublin has decided off her own batt that there will be no crib at the Mansion House this year.

There are no viable alternatives, the basic problem you and the Gretards can't seem to ever comprehend.

Wind turbine masts are made from chinese steel, shipped to the EU on ships made of steel, using engines powered by bunker oil, and all that steel is made from iron ore mined in Australia using diesel powered equipment, shipped via diesel powered trains in many instances, and loaded onto bulk Iron ore carriers, that are made of steel and powered by engines made of steel burning bunker oil to get the iron ore to China, where vast amounts of infrastructure made from steel, offload the iron ore and get it to steel mills using diesel, which then use coal to make the steel from energy produced by burning coal, that was shipped to China from Australia in ships made of steel using engines made of steel powered by fossil fuel, which was mined using diesel, transported using diesel...

The blades of the turbines are mede from resins like vinyl ester or epoxy, the latter of which is made from ethylene gas which is made by refining crude oil, which is shipped in tankers made of steel, using engines... The blades are also made from fibre glass and carbon fibre, which are made from, and using energy...

Each offshore turbine requires 28.63 tonnes of copper, which is mined in various countries, but most comes from Chile, which is mined using... shipped using... transported using...

Without fossil fuels there wouldn't be any wind turbines for you to shag or solar panels for you to lick clean of dust. Cop on.

I don't have a problem with oil, or CO2, so be my guest.

I often have time for the Greens but this is straight out of the “you couldn’t make it up” school of right-on idiocy

Heard the Lord Mayor on Newstalk earlier and Car Crash interview would be putting it mildly. Ciara Kelly thankfully called her out on the bullsh1t decision.

That is the sail fully retracted. It will cause some aerodynamic drag. But this is a minor issue, the main one is that its all for optics.

Back in the day of sail power, with clipper ships plying their trade between England and Australia, as well as India and other places, a typical journey would take 100 days with ships a fraction of the size and weight of todays beheamoths. This idea of sail powered shipping in modern times is nonsense. The urgency of moving cargos like food is significant.

“Optics” and a 10% improvement in fuel economy.

the ships will not be entirely sail powered no. Every bit saved is trillions of barrels over the long run zero sum game of having a finite amount of oil in existence.