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So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX **Threadbans in OP**

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,469 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Spot the guy who has never worked with engineers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,450 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Remember reading on a forum years ago: "Elon Musk sounds like a cheap deodorant or a nonce. Either way his spray is gonna be all over a load of 14-year-olds..."



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    Why would he? Trump already said he wouldn't return and has his own greatest ever platform now.

    Unless he was lying of course. But why would he do that

    Musk is beholden to the advertisers now, he will be all talk but little action as his investors will want a return.

    Donnie will have to be homeless I guess



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,667 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I think it's been pointed out before that Trump's agreement with Truth Social means he has to use it as his main social media platform, so even if he rejoins Twitter he's supposed to post on Truth Social first and there has to be a delay (can't remember how long) before he can post the same thing on Twitter.

    I'm not sure if it relates to all truths/tweets, or only ones of significance, but Truth Social is supposed to take precedence.

    Then again, wouldn't be the first time Trump just ignores legal agreements...

    I agree too that Musk is beholden to the advertisers. His statement yesterday or the day before was designed to try keep all advertisers on board by promising increased targeted advertising, making ads more relevant to people. Of course, that means increased data collecting on users in order to target ads to them which won't go down well.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,469 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Indeed to the last bit: he's going to quickly come up against GDPR, Californian Law and the shifting sands that are Privacy Laws once he starts dícking around with Twitter's data-collection. I'd not be surprised if in a month or two Musk Peaces Out on this, hires a factotum to take over de-facto running of the company and never darkens Twitter's doors again. Much to the relief of those blue-haired weirdos no doubt, agitated by Musk's ... well, musk. 😂



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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,692 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Excellent news that he fired Vijaya Gadde.

    I remember seeing her and Jack go up against Tim Pool on the JRE podcast and she couldn't addressed any of his questions on how biased Twitter was.

    Top down clean out is the way go 👍




  • Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    You mean the guy who qualifeed as an engineer over 20 years ago and been working with other engineers ever since?

    Have another crack 😂

    Reading comprehension not a strong point, I see.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,130 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Reading comprehension not a strong point, I see.

    Apologies I didn't know, there is adult services for that now though, best of luck. 👍️



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭archfi


    The issue is never the issue; the issue is always the revolution.

    The Entryism process: 1) Demand access; 2) Demand accommodation; 3) Demand a seat at the table; 4) Demand to run the table; 5) Demand to run the institution; 6) Run the institution to produce more activists and policy until they run it into the ground.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,469 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Qualified 2003 and been working in IT/web quite happily since then; and working in similar tech stacks to those Twitter would be involved with. Like, if you're going to trot out silly generalisations - then you gonna be mocked. Especially this fantasy version of Twitter where poor, put-down Engineers are finally freed from blue-haired oppression. Do you reckon the blue-haired employees are a single department deployed out; or some kind of Liberal Commissar inserted to spy on lapses by hassled devs?

    I'd spitball most employees couldn't give a shíte whose in charge, what colour hair or ideological leaning the admin dept may or may not adhere to - as long as the pay's good, the work-life balance's fair and (as it's America) the health plan covers their family.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,964 ✭✭✭Cordell


    As an engineer I can confirm I care a lot about pay and benefits, but I also care a lot about my work, and leadership. And I won't last much if my work were to be judged by blue haired political driven woke weirdos that are clearly useless and lesser than me. Yes, indeed I'm very unapologetic* about my opinion that in the tech industry engineers are intellectually superior to everyone else :)

    *here, IRL I'm not a dick so I keep it to myself. But I still believe it.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,481 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    You'd assume that they are all going to walk away with pretty significant pay-outs

    What with all stock and share options having been bought out at a premium, plus whatever contract buy-outs are involved all the current Twitter senior execs will have seen their net worth increase substantially in the last 48hrs or so.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Nah. She was history as soon as he took over.

    Regards...jmcc



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,049 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    This is it. The only companies I hated working for were the ones where there was a pressure to engage in the company socially. A mature culture will leave it's engineers alone, let them do their job, clock in clock out, collect their paycheck. We are not here to have an opinion on social issues.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,469 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    In any case, it's a decision that's entirely up to the employee in question. Personal responsibility dictates that if someone's distaste for any liberal-leaning corporate culture was that pronounced and that aggravating - well, individualism then says: go find a new job. Obviously there are mitigating factors with anyone's work situation; everyone's different. But swallowing a little deference to pronouns, inclusivity - or whatever else is the supposed Fall of Civilisation - is a small ask rarely overlapping. As you say: as long as they let the engineers and devs do the work asked of them - so what? How many in Twitter even care about St. Musk freeing them from those liberal shackles? Probably just that one SRE in the office, the quiet one nobody talks to or likes anyway 🤣

    I worked for one of the major gambling companies, despite having severe reservations about the morality of the tech. we were building. Still do. The pay was good, the people in my orbit were good skins (with a whole range of hair colours), and so on. I was happy with the due diligence they did perform to counter addiction - but ultimately I could live with the cognitive dissonance. I've also worked for openly "liberal" American corporations, via the US office, and the few Trump supporters I knew of didn't spontaneously combust with the open political culture on show. But neither company forced employees to engage socially, politically or ideologically - it was always opt-in, always easily ignored. Which is often the point of this: don't like liberal culture? Then don't engage with it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,964 ✭✭✭Cordell


    ...



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Oh right, so you've gone from "you don't know engineers, to "silly generalisations"

    Some shift there 😂



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,469 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Uh, I don't think that's the intellectual Gotcha you believe it is.

    You're the one who thinks Twitter's engineers are oppressed souls under the thumb of blue-haired ones, now cheering Musk's sink like it's DeGaulle entering Paris.

    Hey, maybe you are that SRE I'm thinking of. Would answer a lot.

    Post edited by pixelburp on


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    I once worked for a company that was taken over by one of these types. Suddenly we found that if we didn't socially engage, we were literally named and shamed for it. Absolutely rotten company, all but one of the original staff members left.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,049 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Yeah, I absolutely despise that. Or the CEOs with a god complex from a decade of arse licking. Suddenly he is talking about meta physics in an all hands meeting.


    Note for everyone: being an expert in one specialized area =/= competency in all of human philosophy



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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,720 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    She was one of his main targets.

    After all she was instrumental in getting the Donald banned and constantly bad mouthing Musk.

    Ridiculous that her incompetence will be rewarded with a huge payout.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,720 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Look at the enthuasism on her face, she knew what was coming

    Trump is happy that "Twitter is now in sane hands".

    Twitter "will no longer be run by Radical Left Lunatics and Maniacs that truly hate our country"



  • Registered Users Posts: 408 ✭✭Starfire20


    musk is just a hype man.

    nothing will fundamentally change as musk needs to make a profit so as to not tank his investment.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I don't use twitter or instagram, but if you look up the Top 50 most followed accounts on both, they're all pretty inoffensive - celebs, footballers, news sites, musicians. But the numbers of instagram followers massively dwarf twitter followers.

    Musk just bought a knife to a gun fight. (See what I did there?)



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,457 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I'm not up on what the ykids are using, but I'm aware that the arse has fallen out of Facebook, but Meta owns Instagram as well, am I right?



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,944 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    They said Musk taking over would be a disaster. Now it's happened they're spinning it as a positive in terms of the value of the sale.

    People (on all sides) are really pathetic creatures when you think about it.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on

    Glazers Out!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,469 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Meta does own Instagram (and WhatsApp), but they might have shot the arse off that too: Instagram now basically preferences "reels", ie short videos in an attempt to mimic TikTok. The algorithm now actively hides posts, even from those you directly follow, so many small to medium artists and creatives have found their presence diminish to the point of nonexistence. Christ even as I post this Instagram just threw a notification at me about "most watched reels in Ireland".

    Here's a photographer I follow lamenting the ludicrously disparity between Instagram and the same photo posted on Twitter, as it happens. This would be a business account too, so an important arm of this photographer's career. Much fewer followers but more engagement. I daresay if a better artists/creatives sharing app came about it might kill Instagram quick enough.

    My wife part times illustration work and while Instagram wasn't a focus or priority, she noticed her work plummeting from about 1000 likes per post, to about 100. I can't imagine how bad that'd affect someone actively monetising their account. You have this ludicrous scenario where artists make a video of their still image cos technically that's more important to the algorithm.




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    Thats a spin if there ever was one. Musk set out to buy twitter and was blocked at every avenue. So he withdrew his offer which made shareholders panic , thus a lawsuit was filed. He laid out his terms and got the deal done. He wanted twitter and in the end he got twitter. The only people embarrassed was Parag and whoever ese was escorted out of the building. And make no mistake about it , Parag and especially Vidday were vehemently against Musk owing twitter.



    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/05/business/musk-twitter-buyout-what-we-know.html

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,667 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    What the shite are you talking about? Some of Musks initial offers were rejected, until he made his final offer which was then accepted.

    After that Musk was the one trying to pull out of the deal by using excuses such as the number of bots on Twitter and accusing Twitter of not being truthful about their figures. Musk tried pulling out of the deal and then trying to renegotiate the price.

    This was literally going to court because Twitter's shareholders were trying to enforce the contract Musk agreed to and make him buy Twitter for the agreed price. The only reason the court case didn't go ahead is because, as almost all legal experts pointed out, Musk was sure to lose. So Musk proceeded with the purchase even though, again by all expect accounts, he's buying it at a ridiculous price.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,720 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    It was only a pump and dump they said, Musk would never buy it they said.



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