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What whisk(e)y are we drinking? (Part 2)

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    #1922
    odyssey06
    Registered Users Posts: 29,543 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The Caskmates are €22.10 in Dunnes ... lowest I've seen them:

    https://www.dunnesstoresgrocery.com/sm/delivery/rsid/258/product/jameson-stout-edition-irish-whiskey-700ml-100836413

    Post edited by odyssey06 on

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    #1923
    Pierrette
    Registered Users Posts: 14 ✭Pierrette


    Some decent deals coinciding nicely with the darker evenings. Black Barrell down to e32 in Tesco from today



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    #1924
    Black Sheep
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,070 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    The stout caskmates - at least the early releases, haven't had anything recent - was a pretty good whiskey, always thought it worked well.



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    #1925
    2011abc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,679 ✭✭✭2011abc


    Prob couldn’t be legally sold for less .



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    #1926
    Geuze
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    I will be in Edinburgh for three nights soon. I spotted this pub on the web, it looks good.

    https://athleticarms.co.uk/


    It has a long whiskey list:

    https://athleticarms.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Diggers-malt-list-002.pdf


    I don't know that much about whiskey, although I do like Redbreast.

    I don't like peaty.

    Has anybody any suggestions of what to try?

    I see flights on p12 of the menu.



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    #1927
    odyssey06
    Registered Users Posts: 29,543 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    @Geuze maybe the Speyside or Highland flight if you want to avoid peaty.

    Edit- Macallan 12 would be a safe bet I think for you.

    For a left field choice, Paul John Brilliance from the foot hills of the Himalayas

    https://drinksgenius.ie/products/paul-john-brilliance-70cl

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    #1928
    L1011
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119806230#Comment_119806230

    If you don't like peaty, you will really have to focus on Speyside and blends, and even some of them can have a fair bit of peat

    Highland, Island, Islay are generally (exceptions exist) very peaty.

    I would expect the bar staff to know their product there. If they don't, its probably not worth staying!



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    #1929
    Cazale
    Registered Users Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Cazale


    Three Drams have 50% off their previous monthly packs. €14 for three samples. Use tdr50 as code at checkout.



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    #1930
    Black Sheep
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    I think in a specialist whiskey pub definitely worth having a chat with the bartender. Enjoying Redbreast is a useful reference point for them in terms of taste profile.

    There's an abundance of unpeated Speyside styles, associated with sherry, such as Glenfarclas, that could be good choices.

    I wouldn't get too hung up on the idea of trying to determine peatiness by region however, outside of Islay.

    In terms of Highland whiskies there are lots that are unpeated... Dalmore, Royal Brackla, Glengoyne, you'd have to look at distilleries and bottlings in detail to be sure or not. Even of other Highland distilleries that use peat, few are what I would call heavily peated styles, compared to Islay or Island whiskies.

    Even when it comes to Islay, you have two of the larger distilleries producing large quantities of unpeated whisky, Bunnahbhain and Bruichladdich.



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    #1931
    Electric Nitwit
    Registered Users Posts: 10,946 ✭✭✭✭Electric Nitwit


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119807345#Comment_119807345

    I'm spending a lot of money on miniatures because of you Cazale 🤣

    Thanks for this, grabbed three boxes. Unlike the Tiny Tipple, I think I'll be keeping these ones for myself!



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    #1932
    Listrydude
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    anyone tried the new release from Dingle - Samhain? Being marketed as limited edition but at 10,000 bottles, not sure how 'limited' that is really. A hefty €85 price tag would put it up there with the Dingle Pot Stills, which are exceptional.



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    #1933
    SteM
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119821655#Comment_119821655

    Haven't tried it but there was a social media blitz with it on 31/10. I have a real issue with the fact they are marketing it as being limited to 10,000 bottles but don't seem to be releasing any nose/palate/finish details tbh so I wouldn't be spending €85 on it without knowing a little more.

    Seems to be OOS on their site anyway - https://shop.dingledistillery.ie/dingle-whiskey/dingle-samhain-single-malt/



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    #1934
    Citizen Six
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    Probably initial allocation for sale that's sold out. Build the hype.



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    #1935
    SteM
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119822728#Comment_119822728

    Yeah, there's no way they sold 10000 bottles on their own site already.



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    #1936
    runningonwhiskey90
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭runningonwhiskey90


    They were challenged on the "limited" comment and have said that only 3,000 out of the 10,000 are allocated to Ireland. They only released a certain amount on the 31st with the rest going out to independent off licences etc. They also said that it is the first bottle released with Graham Coull named as distiller which will add to the hype even more. Having tasted it it is a nice drop and I bought a bottle (the new design looks great too) - 85 quid is steep compared to Redbreast 12, Powers JL etc but unfortunately that is where the Irish Whiskey market is and compared to some other recent new releases it could be called reasonable.



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    #1937
    Citizen Six
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119822850#Comment_119822850

    I had seen it on another website, but was also shown as sold out.



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    #1938
    janiejones
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    Having lived with the method and madness oats and malt a little longer I have to say I'm not a fan personally. Love the idea and there's definitely nice flavours in there but at 46% I get a real harsh burn off it even though I have a 54% and a 56% scotches open that don't have that same ethanol feel. Maybe it's the oats. Maybe it's a young pot still that needed longer. Can't say. Doesn't mean it's not for everyone, just not for me



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    #1939
    kuang1
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    Tried Slane special edition last night. €39 in my local o'briens.

    (they hadn't it displayed, but turns out had 5 bottles in stock when I enquired.)

    Really, really like it.

    If you enjoy a redbreast you'll love this.



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    #1940
    janiejones
    Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭janiejones


    Diageo acquired Balcones

    https://whiskeyraiders.com/american/diageo-acquires-balcones/

    Could mean European distribution eventually



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    #1941
    odyssey06
    Registered Users Posts: 29,543 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Quick off the mark DrinksHero have samples out of the Samhain... but 10e a pop.

    https://www.drinkshero.com/products/copy-of-dingle-samhain-single-malt-5cl-sample?_pos=2&_sid=dbfd105ec&_ss=r

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    #1942
    Black Sheep
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119825651#Comment_119825651

    Interesting! Balcones have some great stuff. I used to get quite a few samples from them from Master of Malt but that was before they stopped shipping to Ireland.



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    #1943
    odyssey06
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    Fercullen Falls - anyone sampled it?

    I liked the other Fercullen versions but havent heard much about this one.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    #1944
    Black Sheep
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    I thought the Samhain was reasonably priced, by Irish standards. At least it's actually their own product versus something sourced and sold at an inflated price.

    I don't think comparing with with core offerings from larger distilleries is that useful in terms of assessing 'value', especially when they're a totally different style, but someone buying this should be aware, yes, that this is a relatively young no age statement whiskey.

    If I was buying this it would be on the basis that I like Dingle's style, I want to try it with that 2 year cask finish, and although this would be a poor bottle to buy for an investment, I do think part of the price reflects that it's a non core offering. There's always going to be a bit of a premium on any special bottling or annual release.

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    #1945
    SteM
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    I didn't see anyone here comparing it with core offerings from larger distilleries. Has that been happening online?



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    #1946
    3102derek
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    What's the Bushmills Single Malt 10yr like?

    Is it worth picking up?



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    #1947
    Beanstalk
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    The Dingle Single Malt is first fill casks as well, but the Samhain looks like its finished in Muscatel casks and there's no sherry, but its 30 quid more exepensive than their core offering single malt, still has no age statement but with a 4% higher abv.

    Its up to the buyer at the end of the day whether or not they feel that price is worth it...for me personally I think Dingle are amazing but I also feel their limited edition releases and this one are just a wee bit out of my personal 'value for money' range, personally. I think these high priced NAS releases are all going the wrong direction...

    I like the idea of a funky muscatel finish though!


    In terms of buyer optics looking atht eh NAS Jameson Pot Still at around 15 quid more than Powers Three Swallows is another example of a regression in value for moneyeven if the abv is slightly higher...


    edit: i know the whole IRish Oak angle is the sell but still...15 quid more?

    Post edited by Beanstalk on


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    #1948
    Cazale
    Registered Users Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Cazale


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119811354#Comment_119811354

    Sorry about that 😜 Hopefully you got some good ones!



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    #1949
    Black Sheep
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119827256#Comment_119827256

    Yes, a few posts up.

    I don't think there's an Irish whisky in existence that someone hasn't compared to Redbreast 12 on this forum. It's like a whisky equivalent of Godwin's law, it has to happen.



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    #1950
    Cazale
    Registered Users Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Cazale


    There is an article in today's Irish Times about rising costs in the Whiskey distilling business. Blackwater distillery cautioning about 60% rise in energy, malt prices doubling and a 40% rise in other materials such as glass bottles. Could be unsustainable for a lot of the smaller operations out there and could make Irish whiskey prohibitively expensive in the next few years.



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    #1951
    Cazale
    Registered Users Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Cazale


    Speaking of Blackwater, I noticed there is a Single Grain Puca advertised in the Christmas Aldi book. I'm slightly out of the loop on the comings and goings of whiskey these days, but I think that's a new offering from them?



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