Russian warship, go f**k yourself!

The russians lost 10,000 troops last week. It'll end when the russian public start to cop on that this won't end and their only hope is to withdraw troops now before the civil war starts and 100's of thousands are lost in russia in the ensuing battles between the russian states.

He is busy invading a European country. Himself and his deputies and Russian state TV have repeatedly mentioned nuking and invading other European countries. As US president, how would you settle this?

Carve up Ukraine and "give" portions to Putin?

True but we have here a Russian administration that preaches of genocide against Ukraine and obliterating "the West" on national television with nuclear weapons. The support won't stop till Putin is in a box and Russia leaves Ukraine. The sooner the Russian population understands this and not being drawn along by our propaganda is working in the US and it'll change with the next US elections, that their TV channels are currently telling them.

Every day more Russians are being killed for nothing.

A Russian delegation and Ukrainian delegation held talks when the war broke out but it was just the usual pantomime by the Russians while they continued to slaughter Ukrainians. Putin is not in Ukraine to "talk", he's there to invade, reabsorb the nation back into Russia by force.

Not sure why you keep singling out the US. Many countries are supporting Ukraine, e.g. Sweden, Japan, Demark, Lithuania, Latvia, Poland, etc, and they are all giving relatively significant amounts of aid, arms, intelligence. Putin is the sole decision-maker in Russia, this is 100% a war of choice, on a country that is no threat to Russia, at any time he can end all this. He's also chosen to be at proxy war with Europe and "the West", he is banking on being able to outlast Europe in all this.

The only way he will stop is if his forces and means are depleted to an extent that he is forced into making decisions he doesn't want to. Or the domestic Russian situation deteriorates against him. And even then the Ukrainians may not accept any of his weaker offers and may want to drive every last Russian out of Ukrainian territory, which is absolutely their right.

This may be a dumb question but I'll ask it anyway... Given that Russia are targeting Ukrainian infrastructure but with limited success given that 90% of the Russian missiles were intercepted (as reported in the Russia thread)... are the Ukrainians responding in kind and targeting infrastructure in Russia?

Nearly all online virtue signallers are saying this, all the while also saying the war is terrible etc

I don't think they see the irony

You've got that well wrong. Clinton did meet Putin AFTER he had become president. Clinton spoke to Putin and sussed him out. He told Yeltsin he had picked a dud; Yeltsin agreed but it was too late|!

I don't understand why you keep advocating for Europe to repair relations with Russia. That just emboldens them, with our money to come back and go for more in future. Russia made their bed, now we all lie in it. So be it. Things a bit more expensive isn't going to kill us. God forbid we have to forgo the shiniest phone, or buy new clothes every week, or turn down the temperature a it, or drive a bit slower or whatever. People got used to the cosy handy life built on cheap energy. That's gone now, and we must adjust

Hope none of your neighbours decide to graze your fields or "borrow" your tractors and maybe a few round bales, or all your round bales.....

What make you think that Europe, the US and Ukraine cannot keep this up for a decade and Russia could.

Russia is bleeding soldiers and materials. The present draft will probably keep the war going until next spring ( although I think the Russian army will suffer horrific losses over the winter) and he has to draft again.

If figures are true and Russia has lost 50k+ troops killed it must have as many seriously wounded as well. The next six months could be worse for them.

The Ukrainian army's resolve seems good. More and more western trained Ukrainian troops are entering the arena. Better trained, better equipped than even the contracted and elite Russian units which are decimated at this stage.

At some stage the oligarchy or the upper echelon of the Russian elite will realise this is not winnable. That is only 6-12 months away.

How is the west suffering, more expensive energy, a bit of inflation, it not going to cause a revolution in the west. How long before the que's of crippled soldiers and the realisation that there is ten of thousands more not returning home cause a rethink in Russian society.

If this war goes on another year there will be up on 200k dead Russian soldiers. Russia will be unable to sustain that. Its an awful senario to contemplate. I feel very sorry for many of those Russian young and not so young men. But I would not sentence the population of eastern Ukraine to have to live under that yoke because of it

We know it goes much deeper. And everyones economy is important. We're in Ireland. We've one of the highest spends on health per capita in the world, yet have 100s on trollies, vacancies to be filled, massive amounts on waiting lists, unreal waiting list times, trouble getting supports for people, etc, etc. Cheap gas from Russia isn't going to solve that.

Our economy depends on <10 massive companies to keep the show on the road. I'd be more fearful of a SF government and looney policies to placate the useless of society ruining things than Ukraine.

The options are stick it to Putin, or don't. You don't want to for spurios reasons in my opinion. I totally disagree and want him and Russia firmly put back into their own territory and their ability to invade again easily to be stripped from them. Otherwise, as I see it, they'll be back for more. Then more. Then more. And what we're experiencing now in our small island in our lives will just go on and on and on. Bending over and agreeing to allow Russia annex part of a country just so we can have cheap fuel is not worth it. Ever.