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Why is Dublin such a shιtty city?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,317 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    I've seen in limerick, tralee, Waterford...People are more likely to swing at you if there is any sort of agro.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    anyone who think Dublin is a “no go” area is better off locking themselves into a panic room.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Perhaps you could quote some of the posts which claim that the city centre is a no go area?

    Just to reassure people that you're not strawmanning away like billy-o.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,317 ✭✭✭gameoverdude




  • Posts: 0 Dean Poor Muddy


    Keegan needs to be ran out of the council. He's a massive hindrance to progress and the only thing that interests him is unfeasible vanity projects. The city has declined under his watch.

    He is from the exact same mindset as Robert Watt. Too much power gone to the head and thinks they are untouchable.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If you're a non pauper Dublin is a great city to live in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Jizique




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Exactly. Living in a capital is usually expensive. But if you have money, there's plenty to do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭cuttingtimber22


    If only they did the basics. it is not brain surgery. As a 20+ year resident of Dublin City I can attest it has gone backwards in recent years.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,881 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Spent most of the day, today on Henry st., Moore st., Wolfe Tone st., Capel st. & Liffey st. with the kids. Lots of uniformed Garda around, very visible presence on foot and on bikes (more than usual, Halloween?). All streets were clean (including Moore st.) DCC were active & visible cleaning too. Recommend the extremely affordable beef skirt on sale in Troys Butchers & the Special Spicy Hue in Aobaba.

    The best thing is... we made it out alive!



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    "The best thing is... we made it out alive!"

    You survived the roaming gangs of savage violent youths? The hoards of the walking dead? The gang shootouts behind every corner?

    I simply don't believe you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,881 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Bought some sparklers off a street trader, she gave the kids a box of snappits each for free and told me to have a "happy halloween chicken"

    The mean streets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    I was in the city before 6am and there was these characters going round cleaning the streets , the nerve of them in their little road sweeper vans cleaning footpaths and gathering up rubbish.

    I didn't get killed either.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I have the name of a good trauma counsellor If you need one!

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭ALB2022


    The above posts describe the experience for 99.9% of people in DCC on a daily basis.

    Extra policing probably down to Halloween I'd say.

    The original message describing areas as 'no go', which many people appear to agree with, is possibly born out of something other than a desire to see parts of the City improve through more effective management? There are a large number of people out there who would prefer the City this way (as outlined in previous post).

    There is a lack of willingness, total incompetence or something else that means we keep going around and around, like the doors of the Criminal Courts.

    In the mean time the 99.9% are just out in the city, including these 'no go' areas, going about their daily business and hopefully enjoying whatever it is they're out to do and see today. The same as every other village, town and City across Ireland.

    Post edited by ALB2022 on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr




    Any chance of you actually quoting those "no go" posts?

    So far the only person going on about no go areas is you which would suggest that your pulling the no go thing out of somewhere other than this thread.



  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭ALB2022


    Just look at the first message and / or Google 'boards no go Dublin'?

    This is actually what it says in the very first post...

    'The Luas is a no go on certain sections as are certain sections of the streets'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,873 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    Walked the quays this morning at 5.45 on my way to work, gangs of youths huddled together, they were either plotting some sort of anarchy or trying to keep as warm as possible waiting for the first bus in last night's barely there costumes......


    Definitely anarchy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    The one that sasy the "the Luas is a no go on certain sections"? Yeah. I can see why you werent keen on quoting it yourself 🤨

    How about when you think you're responding to posts, you just quote them? It's a fairly simple system.

    That way everyone can see that you're not just strawmanning.



  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭ALB2022




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    I'd certainly feel safer in Dublin than I would in San Francisco. Dublin has its problems but SF is a real sh1tshow with walking zombies everywhere.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Every city has it's problems. That defines what a city is, tbh. Millions of humans living in an urban environment is bound to have some issues. Dublin is far from the worst I've been to.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    They were probably snorting heroin and making petrol bombs. Most of them were foreign as well, no doubt. Luckily no one asked you for a light or your whole day would have been destroyed

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,317 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    Those Cork chungsters taking our jobs and wimmins (and fire)!



  • Registered Users Posts: 27 CaptainTeebs



    The two Garda stations serving our city centre, Pearse and Store St, posted crime declines of 40 and 27% in 2021 vs 2019. And no, that is not mostly due to the near complete lack of nightlife in 2021, seeing as the perception is that Covid/ post Covid Dublin has gotten worse than before.


    Dublin city centre is safer than it has been in years, likely due to the heavy (by international standards) Garda presence among other factors (stronger cannabis keeping many of the local schwars in their gaffs playing Playstation all day instead of wandering the streets drunk and starting trouble like their dads did in the 90s, and in many cases still do, possibly another factor)

    I know this doesn't suit those of you who think it is like the Scorsese classic Taxi Driver from 10am onwards every day, but there you go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭PommieBast


    @CaptainTeebs

    Dublin city centre is safer than it has been in years, likely due to the heavy (by international standards) Garda presence among other factors (stronger cannabis keeping many of the local schwars in their gaffs playing Playstation all day instead of wandering the streets drunk and starting trouble like their dads did in the 90s, and in many cases still do, possibly another factor)

    By the sound of things they've really started to clean up the place since I left last summer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Things have gotten better since you left.........................hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,265 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    The variance across Dublin is huge and I think it's really magnified due to the overall small size of the city.

    I lived in D1 for 6-7 years and saw my fair share of scumbags. Generally never really had any hassle from them but it's not something you want to be dealing with every day.

    Moved over to D7 last year and don't really see any at all anymore. A few around Smithfield while walking through to get home but that's about it. It's gas how much it changes your perception of a city. I was even thinking 'wow, Dublin is really cleaning up it's act' - had to wander over to O'Connell Street recently and got a nice reminder of what I used to have to deal with on a daily basis.

    In short, just stay away from the dodgy areas. Like any major city really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,479 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I'm not sure seeing addicts arguing with each other or them asking you for money makes an area dodgy though. Thousands of people pass through O'Connell St. every day with no hassle. The aesthetics of the place may not be pleasing to some but it's not dangerous.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I've been here for 15 years and never had any hassle from addicts, other than the odd frustrated one when you say you don't have change. But I feel too much empathy for them to see it as genuine aggressive behaviour. I would probably act the same way in their shoes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,750 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Why should it not be “pleasing” dude.

    Why should the premier street in the capital city be anything other than pleasing? In the main.

    Why should any of the “thousands who pass through OCS “ every day be subject to hassle from a small minority of scrotes.

    If the desire is there is should not be difficult.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,265 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    By 'dodgy' I'd just mean a high scumbag to regular person ratio, with an elevated chance of getting grief - mostly after hours.

    The Abbey Street intersection on O'Connell Street would be one of those particular spots, I've had watch where I walk on quite a few occasions to try to avoid warring teenagers around there. Particularly on a Friday/Saturday night.

    Still, I wouldn't find it 'dangerous' to the point where I'd be avoiding the street entirely because of it - just that it's not the most pleasant thing in the world to have to deal with and if you were to avoid it entirely, your 'vision' of Dublin would be a lot nicer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,479 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    But it isn't the premier street, it's a street full of bus stops and people passing through. It hasn't been a premier street in decades. The premier streets/area is around Grafton Street, an area most of us find quite pleasant.

    There's a host of reasons why addiction is a problem in the North Inner City, they wont be resolved any time soon. I don't know anyone who is bothered by people when they go to the city centre, thousands of people are not being subjected to hassle. You're just making that up.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    O'Connell Street is far from the premier street, whatever that means.

    Maybe a half century ago. But the economic pendulum has swung south.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I agree it can be improved. But I’ve never considered O’Connell st the “premier” street in Dublin. That’s always been Grafton street.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    You're the lad described Coolock as being a fine example of a grand neighborhood, I think its fair to say that your judgement on these matters is suspect.

    It has been interesting to see people trying to dismiss criticisim of OCS on the basis that its not a No-go zone or it's not dangerous. or that the junkies are not agressive when they're hassling you for money...most of the time

    Says a lot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,479 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    It's fine, I never had any problems in Coolock nor did anyone I know. It's not Sandymount but for what I paid for my house I'm delighted with it.

    You ultra-conservative anti-everything types are always terrified of cities anyway, too many people you look down upon and in your words too many people of the wrong colour. If you're scared of the aggressive "junkies" or people asking you for money, I will chaperone you next time I'm home and I can guarantee you you'll be safe, if you feel you need protection when walking around Dublin.

    Dubliners get the bus from O'Connell St or pass through it to get somewhere else. No one really cares if you might see the odd addict there. 1000s are on the street every day with no problems. Why everyone gets so obsessed with one street is beyond me. It was a main street 50 years ago, now it's just a traffic thoroughfare and not a destination for anyone.

    There's not really any city you can go to where you might be asked for money or you might see some unfortunate down and outs. Where I'm living now is one of the trendiest parts of London but you go around the corner to Broadway Market which is heaving with trendy bars and restaurants, and there are homeless people and addicts hanging around there all the time. It doesn't mean it's a terrible area, people just get left behind in life and end up in these situations. Not all of us look down on them like you and your ilk do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,479 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Nope, I'm saying criticise OCS all you like, no one really cares as no one goes there they just pass through it. The current state of that one street doesn't make Dublin a sh*tty city, which is the title of this thread.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Life must be a truly terrifying experience for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    "Its not ****"

    "No one cares that its ****"

    "People are just passing through anyway"

    The amount of coping, its like the steps of grieving 😂

    I was having a quiet drink in O'Connell Street only last night. A good deal of the north inner city and quays are in a sorry state.



  • Posts: 0 Dean Poor Muddy


    Guards are making their presence felt around the areas exposed on Prime Time. They are visible in the middle of O'Connell Street. As a result it's been quieter the past couple of weeks in terms of visible anti social behaviour.

    Give it another few months and when the dust has settled it will be back to being a full on kip again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,479 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    are there any parts of the inner city you actually like?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,834 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    A couple of my favourite streets were always Wicklow St and Duke St and walking through those locations even now bring you into contact with a significant number of scrotebags on a semi regular basis..

    used to be quite gentrified urban thoroughfares with a nice relaxed pace to life… good music shops, bespoke independent clothing emporia, nice pubs, restaurants etc and nobody bothering you…. But now… fairly usual to have someone wearing a sleeping bag with customary hood up with a fag hanging out of its mouth and eyes popping out of its head and a metallic pong , popping right up into your face.. “ sorry bud, you couldn’t spare some …. “

    You are indeed correct sir, I couldn’t… now my good man, allow me on my way…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,479 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    It still has all of those things and not all of us are so precious that the sight of someone in that terrible situation puts us off a city entirely. Also that area is pretty well kept in general but you'll encounter homeless people and beggars in all cities, maybe cities aren't for people like you.

    It's quite telling of your character that you punch down at people like this and call them "scrotebags". There but for the grace of God and all.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The only scrotebags are people who look down on the homeless like that.

    Contemptible behaviour, tbh. Perhaps such snowflakes should avoid urban environments so they don't get offended by people worse off than them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,750 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Why should ordinary law abiding tax paying citizens be hasseled by these people.

    What concerns me is that 99% of the citizens can be hassled by 1%.

    Get a grip.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,479 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    What's your definition of hassle? Begging? I can't think of any city I've been to without beggars. Get over yourself.



  • Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭fabvinny


    Are you speaking from experience? I was in SF a couple of weeks ago and saw nothing like that and i saw a lot of the city. certainly a lot of homeless people but never got any hassle. Unlike experiences I have had in our capital city...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Yes, I'm speaking from experience having lived there in the 90's and on hols in November 2019 just before COVID hit.

    We stayed in a hotel not far from Union Square. There were homeless people in most doorways. And clearly many of the homeless there had serious mental health issues.

    The first day we were there I told my wife we needed to be back in the hotel before it got dark as the place gets a bit dangerous. She ignored me. We got followed and hassled a good few times on the way back to the hotel. The second night we were there, the wife didn't need to be coaxed into going back to the hotel before dark, she practically legged it back before nightfall. She didn't want to stay a third night so we went back to Mountain View.

    I got hassled loads of times during the day too. And I saw one homeless guy threaten to kill another person because he wouldn't buy him breakfast.

    We got a taxi from our hotel to the train station. The driver drove through either the Tenderloin or Mission District, I wasn't paying much attention. I'm glad I was in the taxi as it was like a scene from the walking dead. An absolute kip with homeless everywhere.

    Maybe I was just unlucky or you were extremely lucky or maybe SF has cleaned up it's act but that's my experience.



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