BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

It usually takes 74 mins but was more delayed today probably due to increased passenger numbers. I believe people who would use g2 are using the 60 to ballyfermot and hoping to get a 76. They would barely make the 90 minute fare with these running times. The 17.30 has a similar arrival time. Even off peak it can take 55-60 mins to ballyfermot. It also seems to be running in a more timely fashion inbound while encountering more issues outbound

Most of the complaints seem to be in relation to the G1 how is the G2 getting on is it better or worse than the 40

I just think the cycling provision is mad on this one, bikes get sent on mad detours and no continuity from lucan to city centre. There's an air of, 'sure who'd be cycling all the way out there' about it.

And not just horizontal detours but vertical ones as well. Some nice steep bits for cyclists because of all the dropping down and back up to the level of the N4. Bridge ramps as well crossing the M50.

Tallaght buses into town aren’t really changing, the 49 is being replaced by the F whatever and it’s going a similar route, the 27 and 77a are being replaced by the D whatever and going the same ways.

The A3 will genuinely transform Tallaght. Tallaght hasn’t had a frequent route directly into town via that corridor in decades, maybe not even since the tram stopped operating? It’s always been a haphazard service.

The current 65 can do the journey from Jobstown to Rathmines in 20 minutes late at night, it’s the most direct route and the fact it’s so badly serviced as of now is a joke.

Mad to think there was no route from Rathmines to Tallaght until as recently as 1999.

There were about 400 people left behind on Aston quay about 4am waiting on the 39a on Saturday night/Sunday morning . And this is before the Christmas party season even begins

We refer to your correspondence sent to the National Transport Authority on 17 October regarding the departure times for the 60 bus route and the G Spine services.

We are sorry to hear about your experience.

The Bus Connects Network Redesign was published in September 2020 following three rounds of public consultation. Consideration was given to over 72,000 submissions received over the course of the consultation and amendments were made to the final network as a result. The implementation of the new network then commenced with the launch of the H-Spine in June 2021 and has been continuing on a phased basis. There are a number of “Spine” services on the new network that are designed to bring the benefits of frequent services to people along the main bus alignments into the City Centre. We have generally found there to be significant increase in usage where the new network has been introduced.

The new G1 and G2 routes have been designed to provide a very frequent service (every 8 minutes) on their combined section between Ballyfermot and the City Centre (The G-Spine). Routes G1 and G2 are intended to provide an attractive, high-frequency service that is accessible to most residents. Route 60 was designed to cater for those who would find it more difficult to get to the "Spine". It covers a wide area and provides a brand new link for Palmerstown Woods, which has been requested for some time. Our general experience is that the majority of users who have a choice will opt to use the high-frequency “Spine” service (routes G1 and G2 in this case). We believe that there will be sufficient capacity across routes G1, G2 and 60, particularly with the extra school-term trips on route 60.

The new G-Spine runs via Inchicore for a number of reasons. The old alignment of the 79 and 79a via the quays is already served by the C-Spine services so the G1 and G2 follow the path of former route 40 via Inchicore instead of former routes 79 and 79a. This gives a regular service to all of the residents and businesses along the Spine section, which gives them more access and connectivity to other services on the network. The alignments of each Spine in the City Centre are designed to maximise interchange opportunities between the Spine services with a short walk between stops where possible. Additionally, each alignment, including the G-Spine, is consistent with potential future changes to the local road network.

We are actively monitoring the performance of the new services and your feedback is very helpful. P

Peak-time traffic conditions along the alignment, and throughout Dublin, have been particularly poor in recent weeks making some services run late. Due to the traffic conditions, some trips arrived late at their destination and operated a curtailed trip on their return journey, missing out some stops to get the overall service running on time again and leading to longer waits at stops. We are aware that all this means passengers’ journeys are taking longer than they should. We are sorry for this, and we are working with Dublin Bus to add resilience to the schedule so that this does not happen. Please be assured that Dublin Bus and we are closely monitoring performance along the routes and are addressing matters urgently. 

We are using your feedback in conjunction with our running-time data to fix issues in order to achieve better punctuality and reliability along the new routes, which will bring an overall improvement to the service as soon as possible.

 Response from nta regarding route 60. The qustion asked was why the term time departure on the 60 was at 8.40. They didn't answer.

Happened to me too on Sunday night at about 2am prior to all the clubs closing. 39A flew by a crowd of us on Essex Quay after I waited almost half an hour. Had to walk to Stoneybatter before I could get an available taxi and pay 30 quid to get home. I can only imagine the later buses failing to pick up the larger crowds between 2 and 4 am. Its pot luck anymore whether you can get a seat on weekend night services. At least with the old Nightlink on that route, as long as you arrived earlyish on Westmoreland St., you were guaranteed a seat!