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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    The Kremlin perceives that the Brits are politically weak (that's not propaganda, they are) and sees them as a proxy for the United States. In much the same way as Belarus is a client state of Russia. They are not going to attack the United States directly, that's fatal. They can send a shot across the bows by exploiting Britains weakness, it would be for purposes of political maneuver. How is Britain weak? It only just skirted a financial crisis that almost (and still could) take down pension funds. This is war, it does not have to take the form of cutting fiber optic lines or blowing up gas pipelines. It can also be to insert division in alliances or divert resources away at key stages of battle. The XR/Just stop oil idiots are enough to cause disruption in the UK.

    We don't know who blew up the pipelines to Germany, we can guess it is done with Americans tacit approval, and likely to keep Germany from breaking ranks. German industry is piling the pressure on their government. Having the Brits preoccupied with internal politics can work in the Kremlins favour, they don't negotiate with the EU as a political entity, it is always with nation states, that is why you see President Macron, or Chancellor Scholz in Moscow, they diss the EU representatives. Their goal must be to break or limit the NATO alliance or at least make them think twice about crossing the border in Ukraine.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,519 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Don't worry, Putin is after sending the electricity engineers to the front lines.🤭

    It could be a long winter yet in Moscow..



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,944 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Do you think Britain is in a weaker position than Russia right now?



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,984 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Nuclear weapons are not off any table, Russian commanders have already discussed it, and a small tactical battlefield nuke can be fired from howitzer. There are many points of escalations before such a move is taken, but that's in the current situation. If however Ukraine started systematically attacking Russian territory and killing Russian citizens, in such a scenario Russian doctrine "permits" the use of nuclear weapons to "defend the motherland". This is why everyone has been very careful in the type of weaponry that is being supplied to the Ukrainians. Likewise Ukrainian officials have mentioned it many times that Russia would use attacks on it's territory to escalate the conflict.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    Possibly, there are troublemakers like Yevgeny Prigozhin, he rises and falls depending on what happens in Bakhmut. Ramzan Kadyrov is just theater, probably used to goad the Russian Federtion army leaders. The military has clearly forced Putins hand to sign the mobilisation. Dmitry Medvedev is seen as the oligarchs man, but is playing the onside game at the moment. Putin only has until 2024, so any contenders will be lining up for the top job. The Spring offensive will be about more that trying to hold territory in Ukraine.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,657 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Interesting that people in Moscow are aware that the regime was supposed to 'take Kyiv in three days'. Looks like details of the failed special operation are getting through to them without any difficulty.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,566 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    The US the most efficient Army medical logistical support Army in the world runs at 7-8 to 1. NATO is probably similar. The general ration else where is 3-1.

    However the Russian figures on wounded to death are taught to be not much better than 1-1. This is the reason there KIA numbers are so high. Like everything else logistical they do it's a disaster. If they cannot keep military equipment in good order when not in use, they hardly kept there medical logistics in good order either.

    This is the military force where there airforce use sat nabs to guide them around.

    60-80k dead and the same wounded. In Russia unless you are the walking wounded the only way you will survive is if a UA medical team get to you

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,519 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Evident they've no trust in their leadership. Obvious they know it's FUBAR.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,053 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Today, the Kremlin says that they demanded security guarantees from Ukraine. It is worth stopping for a moment to think about such statements of theirs.

    252 days ago, Russia demanded security guarantees from the United States of America. After eight months of Russia's so-called special operation in the Kremlin, they demand security guarantees from Ukraine.

    It's a really dramatic change. This shows both the failure of Russian aggression and how strong we are when we maintain unity. Millions of Ukrainians who are fighting and working for our freedom. And millions of people around the world who help us resist Russian terror.6

    Together we will ensure the defeat of the terrorist state and its punishment for terror. And we guarantee that the whole of Ukraine is and will be free.

    Eternal glory to all our heroes! Eternal memory to all who gave their lives for Ukraine!

    Glory to Ukraine!

    Volodymyr Zelenskyy

    Putin needs a change of underwear, and a large transfusion of brain cells. Perhaps he'd like Zelensky to drop by for some special tea as well?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    This is coming from Radio Free Europe, an American government backed "news service". If RFE and RT interviewed the same twenty Russians we'd see two different reports. So yes and no. A few are feeling more confident to say it's going badly, though putin generally gets a pass. In public. I'd bet it's more to do with it coming home to them since mobilisation and before that they'd be far less critical. I'd also reckon for many it's not that they're against the war, but against the obvious fact that they're not winning it and they're looking bad because of it.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 608 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    The IT have given this Toal chap yet another column to call on Ukraine to capitulate.

    We all want peace, but it would be more helpful if Toal could elucidate what compromises he believes Ukraine should make to facilitate Russia’s fascist aggression.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,412 ✭✭✭prunudo


    One thing that I always notice about these vidoes is how battle scarred the farmland is. They'll be pulling shrapnel and unexploded ordnance out of the ground for decades.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,054 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    70k dead and 70k wounded is 140k out of action is almost the entire russian force committed to the invasion. Their mobilised conscripts have not yet been moved to the front (last report said only ~10k had been moved to the zone of the 'SMO'), so if those casualty figures were true it would mean a total collapse of russian army in Ukraine.

    And yet they are still defending on 4 fronts (Svatovo, Bakhmut-Donetsk, Zaporozhzhia, Kherson). If that number of Russian casualties were accurate, then how are they holding on? Either they have been killing far more Ukrainians than losses they take themselves, which is the only reason Ukraine havent retaken all that poorly defended territory already, or else they havent lost nearly that number of troops.



  • Registered Users Posts: 608 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    Here he is, as far back as 12 March, calling on the West to allow Putin have a ‘victory’ in order to stop the war.

    Pathetic, but at least his eagerness for appeasement is consistent. But why is the Irish Times persisting in giving him editorial space to, in effect, make Putin’s case?



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    I've thought the same thing too. There will need to be a humongous cleanup, but the scale of it would be hard to fathom. Doing it thoroughly would be nigh on impossible, which means there'll inevitably be combine harvesters exploding while going about their daily (or yearly) business



  • Registered Users Posts: 287 ✭✭dennis72


    Whats left of Russian forces will fight to the last man to defend its objective demanded by a mad man

    A retired US General quoted saying if nato went in with its almost immediate air supremacy war would be over in 96 hours

    Only thing stopping it is a possible nuclear backlash and the nnp that's putin has been as a hostage to prevent such a scenario.

    Ukraine army is being made look good by a bad Russian mob like unprofessional force



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Fight to the last man? hardly

    Why on earth would they do that?

    Recent events prove otherwise



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Your last sentence unnoticingly sidesteps the Ukrainians adeptness with technology and ability to integrate many different systems.

    The Russians would have tried to eat Western weapons systems.

    Today's words on Sesame Street are "adaptiveness" and "versatile".



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,944 ✭✭✭✭josip


    The lads ploughing will be at greater risk. I wouldn't be surprised to see armour-plated cabs back in fashion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,994 ✭✭✭ambro25


    The French Service de déminage is still clearing up unexploded WW1 and WW2 ordnance (more rarely 1870 ordnance these days) in the north east of the country, into the tons (metric) every year, to this day.

    It’s long been dubbed the “iron harvest”. Primer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_harvest

    And it keeps on killing, every year too. Mostly Darwin Award chasers with metal detectors. Much more rarely, but still and very regrettably, sappers themselves. I spent some of my military service with them BITD, a guy I met on that team died on the job some years ago.

    Sadly, that will be Ukrainian reality for a lot of years. No matter how thorough the clean up immediately post-war.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,225 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    If the UK/USA/other forces just supposedly did blow up the pipelines, kindly explain why the Kremlin didn't have a wee meltdown over it. They had an interest in these assets and were demonstrably angered by the various attacks to date on the likes of the Kerch Bridge and attacks in Crimea at airbase and port. But the pipelines? A shrug and just too bad for yous seemed to be the message - just look what we can do to other assets like this.

    The Brits may be having their political woes but you can be bloody sure the one thing that would galvanise them in a moment would be an attack by Russia. Big, big mistake.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Seems Russians are leaving Kherson including their administration building and check points..





  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    If anybody has any doubts what the Ukrainans plans are for the future victory and a trip to Crimea for president Zelensky




  • Registered Users Posts: 20,053 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    But it's not spring yet, how could they? /s

    That one didn't even last 24hrs.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,566 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    The Russian army that invaded Ukraine consisted of 200k mainly conscripts who were illegally forced to participate. However since then regular Russian Army stationed elsewhere in Russia have been added to that force. You also have the Wagner group who were recruiting for it as well. Add to that Chechens 15-20k of which were also added to the conflict.

    The reason that Putin added a mobilization order was that the regular army was not able to continue to add troops without removing soldiers from other conflicts. We already see the results of that where when Azerbzijan and Armenia started a conflict that Russia was unable to get involved to help Armenia.

    We know from internal Russian compensation figures that the figures are stark. A late August circular with in the FSB indicated that compensation for death was paid to nearly 50k families. Some families are unable to claim as there is no body.

    Moscow Times indicated 90k irrecoverable losses in late September, that is dead and seriously wounded unable to return to the army.

    You published a figure if 12-1 wounded to dead. No army has ever achieved that in a serious conflict. In Afghanistan the US figures were 7-1. Wounded are all wounded from the soldier that get a bullet graze's to lads that get wounded by major and minor bullet wounds to those that lose arms and legs etc. Unless you are superficially wounded in the Russian army you chance of survival is poor. 1-1 dead to wounded the figures may be much worse 1 to 0.7. Russian medical backup is probably similar to US civil war figures (1-0.7 union forces) not to any modern army.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,053 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    The Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donetsk region liquidated the commander of the helicopter regiment of PMC "Wagner".

    Two days later, Russia confirmed the liquidation in Ukraine of Lieutenant Colonel Vyacheslav Zangiev from Vladikavkaz.

    Those born to kneel are not destined to fly 😘

    Nice ending sentiment.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    "70k dead and 70k wounded is 140k out of action is almost the entire russian force committed to the invasion."

    Keep going you're nearly there... this is the reason Russian forces have stalled at best/collapsing elsewhere. Come on, you can do it... Ruh... Ruhs... Russia is losing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    If I'm correct they still have patrols collecting unexploded munitions found in fields during plowing season ,



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,776 ✭✭✭zv2


    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    If anybody thinks drone are impressive have a look at the unmanned Blackhawk helicopter program




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